Seasonal Park Closings

[MousDad]

Except it wasn't sourced and he is the only one who has come up with the rumor. Not sure how that constitutes "fact".

And I don't fear what is not happening. I only fear false reporting of "facts".

I wasn't using the term 'fact' to denote absolute truth, I was using it as an objective. In other words, he reported something as a fact, he didn't speculate that it would happen. Whether the facts are truthful or not can, of course, be debated.

And he did give a source, just didn't name it (like what 99.9% of all journalists in the world?). Others have corroborated that such contingency plans exist.

 

[hardcard]

except, in the english language, the definition of the word FACT is that it is TRUE and can be PROVEN.. Also known as: ABSOLUTE TRUTH



Fact - Knowledge or information based on real occurrences


Kevin Yee and Jim Hill are soulmates... THATS A FACT

 

[MousDad]

except, in the english language, the definition of the word FACT is that it is TRUE and can be PROVEN.. Also known as: ABSOLUTE TRUTH

Correct. He reported that contingency plans exist for rolling park closures in the event of severe economic crisis. He reported that as a fact. Anyone can choose to believe whether he is reporting real facts or not.

What he did not do is speculate that the plans were in the process of being implemented, other than that the price of oil was approaching what was considered the crisis point in the contingency plan.

This whole thing comes up with predictable regularity. I have no idea why some are so bent on stating that Yee predicted rolling park closures when that just is not the case. :shrug:

 

[Kamikaze]

The rumor I heard was that Animal Kingdom might be closed a couple days of the week if the economy gets worse and attendance drops drastically.
So far park attendance is doing well so it probably won't happen.

AK doesn't make sense. DHS would be the one they would close. AK has a much higher cost of operation that would still go on even if the park didn't open.

 

[Scooter]

They will never close the parks for a day because of economics. Never. I don't believe it for a minute.

Heck...they not only could do it...they do it NOW.

Let me explain: Epcot...Future World opens at 9:00AM...World Showcase opens at 11:00AM.

Why not open both at the same time? Because until the park fills up, Disney doesn't want guests scattered all over the park so they only allow them into Future World until such time as the park has enough people in it to allow them to go on further into World Showcase. Disney saves money by not staffing WS until later in the day and so guests are forced to stay in one area until Disney decides it's time to open up more attractions for them in World Showcase.

If Disney World attendance is drastically reduced because of a bad economy, I'm sure the Disney people would open parks at their own discretion. Letting 8,000 people run around in 4 differant parks would force Disney to fully staff all 4 parks. Wouldn't it just make more sense to open 3 parks one day and then switch parks the next day. That way even people who only go to Disney for 2 days would still have access to all 4 parks.

I'm not saying this will happen, it was just a rumor I heard from a CM friend of mine. I'm sure it would only be done under extreme circumstances.

I wouldn't like it, but you can't argue that it makes good business sense. Reducing cast member needs yet still allowing visitors access to all parks.

 

[jt04]

Heck...they not only could do it...they do it NOW.

Let me explain: Epcot...Future World opens at 9:00AM...World Showcase opens at 11:00AM.

Why not open both at the same time? Because until the park fills up, Disney doesn't want guests scattered all over the park so they only allow them into Future World until such time as the park has enough people in it to allow them to go on further into World Showcase. Disney saves money by not staffing WS until later in the day and so guests are forced to stay in one area until Disney decides it's time to open up more attractions for them in World Showcase.

If Disney World attendance is drastically reduced because of a bad economy, I'm sure the Disney people would open parks at their own discretion. Letting 8,000 people run around in 4 differant parks would force Disney to fully staff all 4 parks. Wouldn't it just make more sense to open 3 parks one day and then switch parks the next day. That way even people who only go to Disney for 2 days would still have access to all 4 parks.

I'm not saying this will happen, it was just a rumor I heard from a CM friend of mine. I'm sure it would only be done under extreme circumstances.

I wouldn't like it, but you can't argue that it makes good business sense. Reducing cast member needs yet still allowing visitors access to all parks.

Get back to me when they close down a park for the entire day because of an economic slowdown because that is what is being discussed. Not seasonal hours or staggered hours or extra magic hours. I read your post twice and I have no idea how it applies to the parks closing for the day, it is all unfounded rumor/speculation. sorry

 

[DisneyPrincess5]

What are you talking about? They already close the parks earlier in the "off-season." Epcot seems to be the only park that has the same hours all year (with an occasional exception here and there). Disney's contigency plans to close one park one day a week is predicated on the economy being so bad that the Company loses money with all four parks being open. DAK and DHS would be the parks that closed. Each one one day per week.

Yes, I know they close early during value season...that's when we go every year.

That is insane. Disney would absolutely never close a park for a day. Although it does cost a lot to keep a park open, by closing one just for one day, they would lose too much money and tick a lot of people off.
It just seems crazy...I can't imagine them doing that.

 

[LivingtheDream]

I keep getting this picture in my head of a family driving their station wagon up to the gates of the Magic Kingdom and seeing the "CLOSED" sign on it ...... now where have I seen this before?????:shrug: .... it's on the tip of my tongue :brick:

 

[fosse76]

Get back to me when they close down a park for the entire day because of an economic slowdown because that is what is being discussed. Not seasonal hours or staggered hours or extra magic hours. I read your post twice and I have no idea how it applies to the parks closing for the day, it is all unfounded rumor/speculation. sorry

You are just being ignorant. Do you really think that Disney doesn't have a plan to save money if there is a devastating economic impact on attendance? While the current financial crisis isn't dire enough to warrant such a scenario, just hope Japan or China doesn't call in their loans to the U.S. The economy would completely collapse and they'd be closing all 4 parks! They close resorts and wings of resorts during slow periods as it is...what makes you think they won't close down a park if the economy gets really bad? I don't pretend to know what it would take for them to implement such a strategy, but there's no way Disney executives don't have that as a scenario.

 

[Bluewaves]

I keep getting this picture in my head of a family driving their station wagon up to the gates of the Magic Kingdom and seeing the "CLOSED" sign on it ...... now where have I seen this before?????:shrug: .... it's on the tip of my tongue :brick:

Its from National Lampoon's Vacation, Sorry Folks Wally World's closed today, the Moose out front should have told you.

 

[DisneyPrincess5]

Its from National Lampoon's Vacation, Sorry Folks Wally Worlds closed today the Moose out front should have told you.

:ROFLOL:
Hysterical movie! The best part is when Clark goes insane over the closing of the park!
If that ever were to happen at Disney (which would be a shock and an absolute last last last last last last last resort) I'd be acting just like him!

 

[Duckberg]

You are just being ignorant. Do you really think that Disney doesn't have a plan to save money if there is a devastating economic impact on attendance? While the current financial crisis isn't dire enough to warrant such a scenario, just hope Japan or China doesn't call in their loans to the U.S. The economy would completely collapse and they'd be closing all 4 parks! They close resorts and wings of resorts during slow periods as it is...what makes you think they won't close down a park if the economy gets really bad? I don't pretend to know what it would take for them to implement such a strategy, but there's no way Disney executives don't have that as a scenario.

fosse76, I would concur that anything is possible under the worst case economic circumstances as you have stated. Last year with the surging fuel prices there was speculation of Disney SELLING the parks if fuel reached a certain price point effecting people being able to reach WDW & the actual fuel demands of running of the parks Duckberg :lookaroun

 

[jt04]

You are just being ignorant. Do you really think that Disney doesn't have a plan to save money if there is a devastating economic impact on attendance? While the current financial crisis isn't dire enough to warrant such a scenario, just hope Japan or China doesn't call in their loans to the U.S. The economy would completely collapse and they'd be closing all 4 parks! They close resorts and wings of resorts during slow periods as it is...what makes you think they won't close down a park if the economy gets really bad? I don't pretend to know what it would take for them to implement such a strategy, but there's no way Disney executives don't have that as a scenario.

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it. This rumor is nothing but conjecture and opinion including your post. They have strategies but park closures is not one of them. I stand by that.

 

[MousDad]

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about it. This rumor is nothing but conjecture and opinion including your post. They have strategies but park closures is not one of them. I stand by that.

I have no problem with you taking that position. But I think your position is based on how you want things to be, and not on any real knowledge of the situation. Do you deny that?

 

[jt04]

I have no problem with you taking that position. But I think your position is based on how you want things to be, and not on any real knowledge of the situation. Do you deny that?

Well first, thanks for not having a problem with my take on it. I didn't sleep too well last night worrying about if I had your approval.


As for the latter, I can neither confirm or deny that I can either confirm or deny how I know what I know about the question at hand. Hope that helps.:lookaroun


It's all about the teleprompter

 

[WDW1974]

I have no problem with you taking that position. But I think your position is based on how you want things to be, and not on any real knowledge of the situation. Do you deny that?

That's the wonder of the Internet. People can say anything regardless of whether it is true or not ... and if others are weak-minded, they can sip the Kool Aid too.

Disney has had contingencies to stagger park closings as well as close resorts in place since 9/11. FACT. Whether JT or anyone else believes it or not doesn't change it.

They revisted the idea last fall when the economy fell into what some of us like to believe is borderline depression.

Thankfully, it hasn't come close to being done. But to deny it is just choosing a path of ignorance.