Screamscape - New Disney Resort??

Mr.EPCOT

Mr.EPCOT

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Master Yoda said:
You would think that they would simply put a dedicated line on each deluxe resort. I can see GF and the Poly or The Contemporary and BLT sharing a route but it is rather brutal when all 4 are on the same route.
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Bay Lake Tower does not have its own bus stop, it's just the one at the main tower. Kidani Village at Animal Kingdom Lodge does have a seperate stop from Jambo House, however.
 
Thrill

Thrill

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Master Yoda said:
You would think that they would simply put a dedicated line on each deluxe resort. I can see GF and the Poly or The Contemporary and BLT sharing a route but it is rather brutal when all 4 are on the same route.
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If I remember correctly, Wilderness Lodge had its own bus line. It was shared with the villas, but those are very small compared to BLT, and I think Wilderness Lodge and Contemporary are right around the same size.

Don't the Epcot Area Resorts share a bus too?
 
Slowjack

Slowjack

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Master Yoda said:
You would think that they would simply put a dedicated line on each deluxe resort. I can see GF and the Poly or The Contemporary and BLT sharing a route but it is rather brutal when all 4 are on the same route.
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Hmm...when I was at the Polynesian in January, we only shared with the Contemporary.
 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

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Thrill said:
If I remember correctly, Wilderness Lodge had its own bus line. It was shared with the villas, but those are very small compared to BLT, and I think Wilderness Lodge and Contemporary are right around the same size.

Don't the Epcot Area Resorts share a bus too?
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WL will share with FW

Slowjack said:
Hmm...when I was at the Polynesian in January, we only shared with the Contemporary.
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It will vary depending on volume. I have experienced both a dedicated bus and a stop at all three monorail resorts.
 
bugsbunny

bugsbunny

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s8film40 said:
I kind of wonder though if they might reach a point were they end up destroying any benefit to staying on Disney property. With the existing Value resorts the addition of the Animation resort and possibly others. As it is right now the transportation system is strained to keep up with demand, ask anyone staying at a value resort and they will tell you the transportation system is not a benefit. They use extra magic hours to help sell the hotels but what's so special about being part of an exclusive group of 100,000 that get early or late access, in fact I've noticed some parks being more crowded for EMH than normal hours. I could see a point where the whole thing collapses, like the saying the bigger they are the harder they fall. If they keep building rooms it's going to eventually end up bad.
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:sohappy: :sohappy:

I could not agree more. Since 9/11, it would seem the WDW bus system has become a mirage of success. From doubling up on hotels (or even tripling up on them!!!) has led to ridiculous ride times because of the amount of stops and then tack on the scooter problem and I can see why people can't find the added value of staying on property. I also find that any day a park has EMH, you basically need to avoid it that day because of longer lines.

After 25 trips or so, I've had enough of paying top dollar for a WDW hotel, yet having to stand just about every time I ride a bus for 45 minutes or having to wait ridiculous amounts of time to watch 2 scooters load up with their 45 person entourage.

Without a doubt, you cannot beat the ambiance of a WDW hotel. But if I end up having to rent a car, why not just rent a house right off property for a substantial savings? In most cases, its faster to get out of the park and drive home than it is to get a bus back to a hotel anymore.

WDW can go ahead and build "family suites", but they will price them outside of the average family. The Ft.W cabins are a perfect example of "family" accommodations that are way over priced. $300+ per night for a trailer with cedar siding? Really? For anyone that has ever camped, stayed in a lean-to, or a real log cabin; the Ft.W cabins are an overpriced travesty. I thing the people who like them simply don't know any better, quite frankly.
 
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zulemara

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I heard a while ago that they plan to develop the lakefront along RC towards WL into DVC FW cabins that would be...on the lake. Just a rumor though...
 
aladdin2007

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bugsbunny said:
:sohappy: :sohappy:

I could not agree more. Since 9/11, it would seem the WDW bus system has become a mirage of success. From doubling up on hotels (or even tripling up on them!!!) has led to ridiculous ride times because of the amount of stops and then tack on the scooter problem and I can see why people can't find the added value of staying on property. I also find that any day a park has EMH, you basically need to avoid it that day because of longer lines.

After 25 trips or so, I've had enough of paying top dollar for a WDW hotel, yet having to stand just about every time I ride a bus for 45 minutes or having to wait ridiculous amounts of time to watch 2 scooters load up with their 45 person entourage.

Without a doubt, you cannot beat the ambiance of a WDW hotel. But if I end up having to rent a car, why not just rent a house right off property for a substantial savings? In most cases, its faster to get out of the park and drive home than it is to get a bus back to a hotel anymore.

WDW can go ahead and build "family suites", but they will price them outside of the average family. The Ft.W cabins are a perfect example of "family" accommodations that are way over priced. $300+ per night for a trailer with cedar siding? Really? For anyone that has ever camped, stayed in a lean-to, or a real log cabin; the Ft.W cabins are an overpriced travesty. I thing the people who like them simply don't know any better, quite frankly.
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Those cabins need a major overhaul inside. Our bathroom was disgusting.
 
_Scar

_Scar

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zulemara said:
I heard a while ago that they plan to develop the lakefront along RC towards WL into DVC FW cabins that would be...on the lake. Just a rumor though...
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Sounds very reasonable to me... maybe River Country will be involved.... :lookaroun

DVC cabins get me all excited... just as long as they're a bit different from the non-DVC ones.
 
wm49rs

wm49rs

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It looks like Screamscape has updated their original rumor:

2013/2014 - New Disney DVC Resort Hotel - Rumor - (9/1/10) According to our sources, Disney engineers have been spotted going over the site, to determine just what will need to be done to remove the remains of Water Country. Others have been seen near the front of Fort Wilderness talking about plans to build new barn facilities to move the current Tri Circle D Ranch to a new location. As for the resort itself, I’ve been told that this will be a new DVC Resort, with the design being based on the old Buffalo Junction plans from years ago (minus the now defunct Fort Wilderness Railroad and other extra features), filling the gap between the Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness. You can find a nice article about the once proposed Buffalo Junction (aka: Wilderness Junction) concept at Progress City USA.
 
_Scar

_Scar

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Hmmm....


Hotel Cheyenne seems nice and all, but we already have our dinner show.... cmon TDO.... make the HM hotel if anything! :lookaroun
 
NoChesterHester

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wm49rs said:
It looks like Screamscape has updated their original rumor:

2013/2014 - New Disney DVC Resort Hotel - Rumor - (9/1/10) According to our sources, Disney engineers have been spotted going over the site, to determine just what will need to be done to remove the remains of Water Country. Others have been seen near the front of Fort Wilderness talking about plans to build new barn facilities to move the current Tri Circle D Ranch to a new location. As for the resort itself, I’ve been told that this will be a new DVC Resort, with the design being based on the old Buffalo Junction plans from years ago (minus the now defunct Fort Wilderness Railroad and other extra features), filling the gap between the Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness. You can find a nice article about the once proposed Buffalo Junction (aka: Wilderness Junction) concept at Progress City USA.
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Thematically this could make sense.
 
Goofnut1980

Goofnut1980

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that when we stayed at one of the resorts in December that a CM told me that they only operate a portion/percent of each of the resorts at a time... And they never run them at full occupancy.

I see many threads about guests complaining about the buses and the wait times... We all know they will not expand the costly monorail, so wouldn't adding more resorts only cause more bus delays? I have personally never experienced the bus delay.. Guess I'm the lucky one! :sohappy:

Personally they need a new waterpark / rollercoaster park (and I don't ride coasters)... Very easy to theme with LIVE action disney movies, like, Pirates and National Treasure, Tron, Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc... Heck even use Marvel... That would entice people that go to Universal to go to Disney for thrill rides... No need for parades, just a park with coasters and water... and really what upkeep do you have to just a coaster.. its not a mountain that needs painting.. or little audio-animatronics that need tuning all the time...
 
Mr.EPCOT

Mr.EPCOT

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Trotsky said:
Why would you not want a Fantasyland reflecting Hotel? WDW has Deluxe's that reflect Tommorowland, Main Street USA, Adventureland, and Frontierland... REFLECTING doesn't necessarily mean emulating - I think WDW could do a really tasteful job with this.
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They didn't build a hotel based on each land, that's just a fanboi myth, right up there with the hotel rooms at the Contemporary able to slide out of the building to be refurbished.
 
SeaCastle

SeaCastle

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Essentially, back in the days of the early park, you would not have vegetation like you see today blocking your view outside the berm. Thus, the Contemporary would serve as an extended "backdrop" to Tomorrowland, and the Asian and Polynesian would serve a similar purpose for Adventureland. Fantasyland, Frontierland, and Liberty Square, being at the back of the park, had no such visual inconsistencies. That's why you don't have other hotels themed to the lands of the Magic Kingdom. (And before someone says it, it's impossible to see Fort Wilderness from Frontierland. They're completely unrelated.)
 
AEfx

AEfx

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So many families I know that are regular (at least once a year) visitors have been making the choice to stay off-property. Economically it just makes so much more sense - you can rent a house for up to 8 people, within 5 miles of the resort, have your own private pool, jacuzzi, and a whole house to live in - for under $150/night. Sure, you have to deal with a rental car, but I honestly find that I get where I am going more quickly by car than the "hurry up and wait" Disney bus system these days.

I'm honestly surprised if they see demand to build yet another new resort anywhere outside of teh Value range.
 

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