Saving Mr. Banks. Going to see it or not?

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
My 8 & 11 year olds enjoyed the story. Hanks & Thompson make the show. The movie completely misrepresents Travers. I have read that she hated Walt after the movie & her will states that Disney is to never have the rights to any of her other books (which the movie suggests she didn't write until after '63 which is false). The movie tells a happier tale just as Mary Poppins fixed the problems.

You know, I've read that Travers actually went back and forth regarding her feelings about the film. She actually went to see it many times, which doesn't say to me that she hated it, at least not at first. She actually hoped for a sequel. But then Walt died and that didn't happen, and as she aged she became more annoyed with the film. Became even nuttier and more bitter, in other words. :p
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
My 8 & 11 year olds enjoyed the story. Hanks & Thompson make the show. The movie completely misrepresents Travers. I have read that she hated Walt after the movie & her will states that Disney is to never have the rights to any of her other books (which the movie suggests she didn't write until after '63 which is false). The movie tells a happier tale just as Mary Poppins fixed the problems.
I disagree. It was very mis-representative of her in that they made her completely and utterly intolerable, while she was just a struggling artist at sometime. But in the end (*somewhat SPOILER ALERT*) they never make it blatantly obvious that she liked it. They even have her mentioning, though subtly, her dislike for the animation segments while at the premiere. They never show her after the premiere, thus never even showing her saying what she thought. They took the easy way out and basically left it open, which was pretty much how the rest of her life panned out in relation to the film. Some days she liked it, some days she despised it. The movie never really leans towards one or the other.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Well, just got back from "Saving Mr. Banks"...

And it is excellent. One of the most enjoyable live-action movies I've ever seen. The audience I was with really liked it too - lots of laughs, smatterings of applause (during the "Let's Go Fly A Kite" scene especially), and yes, some tears.

CONS: There's only one - it goes on a bit too long. A bit of editing could have been done to the back-story of Travers' life and tightened up the film a bit.

And I must say this: anybody who claims this movie is unfair to Travers is dead wrong. I was surprised by how poignant it was, how human it made her, how it aroused compassion towards her, how it looked at the situation through her eyes, her fears, her memories. She was still a mess of a woman, which is only truthful as it turns out, but she did NOT come off as a total beeyotch. Those who diss the film on behalf of Travers are simply predisposed to dislike it. There can be no other reason.

But it IS dark in places as it explores her past. And this film is not for young children. It is squeaky-clean, make no mistake, but it does not flinch from the shadows in her life.

The performances are top-notch. The script is sharp, witty and fun. The comedy is intelligent rather than vulgar, and man what a relief THAT is; I've gotten so tired of the bodily-function-derived "jokes" that pass for humor in films. Tom Hanks is superb as Walt. Warm, a little tired, a little crusty, very much a Midwesterner, sincere, unaffected, guileless - but he does have a hypnotic charm once he focuses. Very well done! It's criminal that Hanks didn't get a Golden Globe nom for the role (perhaps the Globe snobs thought he'd gotten his due with his nom for "Captain Phillips"). I hope he gets an Oscar nom at least. And Emma Thompson is superb. She handles a very difficult role with aplomb. She will def get an Oscar nom for sure. Really, there isn't a weak performance anywhere in the film. How wonderful to see accomplished actors ply their craft so well, in a script that's worthy of them. And worth the ticket money, I might add. I seldom see movies at the theaters anymore because I'm let down so often. But not in this case. I might very well go see it again over Christmas; and I hardly ever re-watch movies anymore (at least not at theaters). But this film is best enjoyed in the presence of others; it is genuinely a "crowd-pleaser".

And speaking of crowds - I saw the show at 4:00 pm, on a Sunday, and was surprised to see the theater 3/4 full. More than I expected. And again, the crowd loved it. It was actually singing along a bit to "Let's Go Fly A Kite". And in one scene when

SPOILER

an exasperated Walt hung up the phone on P.L. Travers, someone in the crowd shouted "Good!" and there was a smattering of applause. It's moments like that that make movie-going so much fun.

So I'd give the film an A-, due only to length. Unreservedly recommended. It was everything I'd hoped for...and more. :)
 

828tnt

Well-Known Member
Ok, I just got back from Saving Mr. Banks a few hours ago. And, thankfully, I won't need to worry about spoilers very much; because as @WED99 pointed out, the story is public and already fairly well known. As a result, while I will avoid too many details, I will delve a bit into the depths of the movie and the characters.

There are so many wonderful things to say about the movie, so apologies for the length of this review. So, that out of the way, lets begin!

Here's some music to listen to as you read...



The movie is really two tales in one. I don't want to get much more into that, outside of to say it was so delicately and perfectly done, that neither overpowers the other. Rather, it's like they dance together on the screen with smooth transitions and references that remind you that, while there are two tales, it's really one story.

When they do intertwine, it's touching and truly magical. Yes, magical. Sometimes it will leave you smiling, sometimes with a tear in your eye. One example? Pears. And no, I'm not going to explain that. You are gonna have to go see it to find out! :p

The writing is thoughtful and provocative. I really must applaud Kelly Marcel and Sue Smith for such fantastic work. One of the best written movies I have ever seen (and no I am not just giving that lip service). It's clear that the writers love this story, and as a result it shines.

Director John Lee Hancock and the cast clearly adored the script, and made it play beautifully on the screen.

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The cast did an amazing job. Not a single character felt out of place or performance forced. Of course some of this is due to excellent script writing and direction, but it's clear that this troupe were fully vested in the story and their roles in it.

The team of Melanie Paxson (Dolly), Bradley Whitford (Don DaGradi), B.J. Novak (Robert Sherman) and Jason Schwartzman (Richard Sherman) all made the most of their screen time, and blended beautifully together in a believable and thoroughly amusing way.

Dolly, in particular, was a sleeper character for me. She's not shown much in the previews, and I found myself thoroughly enjoying her performance.

Robert and Richard Sherman played very well off each other, and you could really believe that they were brothers. Don DaGradi had several amusing moments. You really could picture the three of these actors as the real people, working on putting together the masterpiece Mary Poppins. It...just...works.

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Ruth Wilson (Margaret Goff), Annie Rose Buckley (Ginty / young Travers) and Rachel Griffiths (Aunt Ellie) did likewise with their portion of the story.

Ginty was ok, a classic little girl character. Not very deep, but she wasn't meant to be. I will note the actress is extremely good at pulling off believable fear and confusion with her eyes and facial expressions, both of which are difficult for many adult actors, much less child ones. There is one scene in the lake where she pulls off a stunning performance (I will say no more about that! Again, go see it to find out!).

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At first, I was not very fond of Margaret (actor or character), but before the movie was over I reversed that opinion and felt that the angle chosen for her character was actually perfect for the role. It adds depth which is often not achieved with characters of this archetype. So, kudos.

Aunt Ellie plays a rather small role (though an important one), and I also felt this was a good choice with the character. Just enough back-story is given that when she finally shows on screen, you really don't need much more than that limited screen time to understand this character, and the extremely important role she plays in the plot.

Paul Giamatti (Ralph the Driver) deserves a special nod with respect to his character and performance. This was another character that could easily have been a toss-away unmemorable performance, or hammed up to the point where it is over the top and not believable (especially when you learn HIS story). But, Giamatti walks this tightrope without falling, and is instrumental in expanding the Travers character. He pulls it off so well that you don't even realize the extent he has contributed to the story until after it's all been done. You just don't see it coming. Truly fantastic.

More music to read by...if the previous music is still playing at this point, please pause it and start this song. It was an intentional choice for me to put this here before you move on.


On to Colin Farrell. He pulled off the deepest performance of his career, I think. I don't want to give anything away for those who many not be familiar with the story already, but...with respect to the MPAA PG-13 rating, his character / story is the reason why. It is clearly obvious when you see the movie, and I agree with the MPAA, now having seen it. This is certainly a PG-13 film. The themes are mature, but treated perfectly without being obnoxious or preachy.

Anyway, back to Colin's performance. He was so subtle that, even though I knew what was supposed to happen (from real life), I wasn't sure if they were going to actually show that on screen. At first you won't see the progression of the character into his issue, but that's the beauty of it. You actually get to see it develop, and the fact that they don't spell it out plain as day from the start shows a respect to the audience that you don't see often.

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You are not supposed to see the details, you are supposed to see it through the eyes of his daughter. And...that is exactly why his performance (and again a nod to the writing team) is so perfect. In addition, it allows you to truly feel invested in the character, and you feel sad (but not sorrowful) when his story finally comes to an end.

More Music and moving on...as before, if the previous music is still playing, pause and start this music. Again, intentional.


Of course, we all know that Tom Hanks is an extremely talented character actor (who can forget Forrest Gump?). However, playing a the role of a real person, especially one as well known as Walt, presents a monumental challenge. You must be able to get the audience to stop seeing the actor and see the character shine through to the point where they forget this isn't REALLY Walt. I can't imagine the effort that would go into this endeavor.

Hanks looks very little like Walt, especially Walt at that time in his life.

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But, Hanks pulled it off beautifully. When he first appears on the screen it may take a few moments to shake the "This is Tom Hanks with a mustache" out of your head, but somewhere during that first discussion with Travers (which was NOT what I expected, and was excellent) you'll forget that and from that point forward...he's Uncle Walt. The speech patterns, words chosen, mannerisms and body language all sell the character perfectly.

Hanks showed his skill with character acting in a way he hasn't, in my opinion, since Forrest Gump. You'll find yourself adoring this character, and seeing glimpses of the ethics and traits (both personal and business) which made Walt so successful in his lifetime, and a glimpse of the inner child underneath as well as a stark reminder that Walt Disney, too...was human.

More Music...



But, this movie isn't really about any of these characters. And, while there are three "leads" for marketing reasons, there really is only one. Emma Thompson as PL Travers. This is HER movie. And man, does Thompson own this role!

PL Travers is a strong willed, very private, obviously intelligent, and bluntly outspoken (to say the least) woman. An extremely complex character. It would have been easy for a lesser actor to slip and not be able to pull this off without the audience feeling one way or another about the character, but Thompson does this masterfully.

You will laugh at her, you will hate her. You will sympathize, you may even empathize. She'll make you frustrated, she'll make you smile. You will never come to love her, though you may come to like her.

But, by the end of the movie, you will understand her. And, that is the point of this film.

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You'll note I've peppered this review with music. That is for a reason. Thomas Newman's score is provocative and touching. It hearkens back to the style of film score in the 90s, reminiscent of Forrest Gump or Meet Joe Black. The music doesn't just accompany the story, it helps to TELL the story. So, I felt it was worth special mention.

More music...and, this is from the PL Travers story meeting tapes. That's really the Sherman Brothers singing. You can tell that PL Travers, while she didn't like that the movie was to be a musical, she did appreciate the song. You can hear her singing along softly...



As a tip, stay through the credits, at least until they start to scroll. You won't be disappointed. There is also a very touching dedication at the very end (though it's only words, it will mean a lot to Disney Fans, and was obviously last minute).

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There were about 20 people in the theater with me when I was there, and out of that, only one group (a couple) left during the credit scroll. No one left before the credits started to scroll. To explain, the credits are in two parts...the "post show" credits, for lack of a better term, which are easily worth sticking through, and the scrolling credits. NO ONE left when the credits started, even though the movie didn't indicate that there would be a reason to stay.

The rest of the theater stayed all the way through the scrolling credits. This is a movie that will leave you at the end feeling like you need to just sit there for a bit during the credits so you can contemplate and appreciate what you just saw.

Yes, it's THAT good.

In summary, this movie is hands down a masterpiece. One of the best movies I think I have ever seen. This is not a story about Walt, or even Mary Poppins or the making of that movie. This is a story of love and loss. Depression, coping and moving on. The rest is merely a framework to tell that story. And, they told it magnificently.

I give it 10 out of 10 spoonfuls of sugar.

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Fantastic review!
 

828tnt

Well-Known Member
Ok, I just got back from Saving Mr. Banks a few hours ago. And, thankfully, I won't need to worry about spoilers very much; because as @WED99 pointed out, the story is public and already fairly well known. As a result, while I will avoid too many details, I will delve a bit into the depths of the movie and the characters.

There are so many wonderful things to say about the movie, so apologies for the length of this review. So, that out of the way, lets begin!

Here's some music to listen to as you read...



The movie is really two tales in one. I don't want to get much more into that, outside of to say it was so delicately and perfectly done, that neither overpowers the other. Rather, it's like they dance together on the screen with smooth transitions and references that remind you that, while there are two tales, it's really one story.

When they do intertwine, it's touching and truly magical. Yes, magical. Sometimes it will leave you smiling, sometimes with a tear in your eye. One example? Pears. And no, I'm not going to explain that. You are gonna have to go see it to find out! :p

The writing is thoughtful and provocative. I really must applaud Kelly Marcel and Sue Smith for such fantastic work. One of the best written movies I have ever seen (and no I am not just giving that lip service). It's clear that the writers love this story, and as a result it shines.

Director John Lee Hancock and the cast clearly adored the script, and made it play beautifully on the screen.

saving-mr-banks-tom-hanks-600-370.jpg


The cast did an amazing job. Not a single character felt out of place or performance forced. Of course some of this is due to excellent script writing and direction, but it's clear that this troupe were fully vested in the story and their roles in it.

The team of Melanie Paxson (Dolly), Bradley Whitford (Don DaGradi), B.J. Novak (Robert Sherman) and Jason Schwartzman (Richard Sherman) all made the most of their screen time, and blended beautifully together in a believable and thoroughly amusing way.

Dolly, in particular, was a sleeper character for me. She's not shown much in the previews, and I found myself thoroughly enjoying her performance.

Robert and Richard Sherman played very well off each other, and you could really believe that they were brothers. Don DaGradi had several amusing moments. You really could picture the three of these actors as the real people, working on putting together the masterpiece Mary Poppins. It...just...works.

817ee9a19dd1b0938d_b1m6iyb8q.png


Ruth Wilson (Margaret Goff), Annie Rose Buckley (Ginty / young Travers) and Rachel Griffiths (Aunt Ellie) did likewise with their portion of the story.

Ginty was ok, a classic little girl character. Not very deep, but she wasn't meant to be. I will note the actress is extremely good at pulling off believable fear and confusion with her eyes and facial expressions, both of which are difficult for many adult actors, much less child ones. There is one scene in the lake where she pulls off a stunning performance (I will say no more about that! Again, go see it to find out!).

Saving-Mr-Banks.jpg


At first, I was not very fond of Margaret (actor or character), but before the movie was over I reversed that opinion and felt that the angle chosen for her character was actually perfect for the role. It adds depth which is often not achieved with characters of this archetype. So, kudos.

Aunt Ellie plays a rather small role (though an important one), and I also felt this was a good choice with the character. Just enough back-story is given that when she finally shows on screen, you really don't need much more than that limited screen time to understand this character, and the extremely important role she plays in the plot.

Paul Giamatti (Ralph the Driver) deserves a special nod with respect to his character and performance. This was another character that could easily have been a toss-away unmemorable performance, or hammed up to the point where it is over the top and not believable (especially when you learn HIS story). But, Giamatti walks this tightrope without falling, and is instrumental in expanding the Travers character. He pulls it off so well that you don't even realize the extent he has contributed to the story until after it's all been done. You just don't see it coming. Truly fantastic.

More music to read by...if the previous music is still playing at this point, please pause it and start this song. It was an intentional choice for me to put this here before you move on.


On to Colin Farrell. He pulled off the deepest performance of his career, I think. I don't want to give anything away for those who many not be familiar with the story already, but...with respect to the MPAA PG-13 rating, his character / story is the reason why. It is clearly obvious when you see the movie, and I agree with the MPAA, now having seen it. This is certainly a PG-13 film. The themes are mature, but treated perfectly without being obnoxious or preachy.

Anyway, back to Colin's performance. He was so subtle that, even though I knew what was supposed to happen (from real life), I wasn't sure if they were going to actually show that on screen. At first you won't see the progression of the character into his issue, but that's the beauty of it. You actually get to see it develop, and the fact that they don't spell it out plain as day from the start shows a respect to the audience that you don't see often.

movies-saving-mr-banks-colin-farrell.jpg


You are not supposed to see the details, you are supposed to see it through the eyes of his daughter. And...that is exactly why his performance (and again a nod to the writing team) is so perfect. In addition, it allows you to truly feel invested in the character, and you feel sad (but not sorrowful) when his story finally comes to an end.

More Music and moving on...as before, if the previous music is still playing, pause and start this music. Again, intentional.


Of course, we all know that Tom Hanks is an extremely talented character actor (who can forget Forrest Gump?). However, playing a the role of a real person, especially one as well known as Walt, presents a monumental challenge. You must be able to get the audience to stop seeing the actor and see the character shine through to the point where they forget this isn't REALLY Walt. I can't imagine the effort that would go into this endeavor.

Hanks looks very little like Walt, especially Walt at that time in his life.

tom_hanks_walt_disney_191ao2l-191ao87.jpg


But, Hanks pulled it off beautifully. When he first appears on the screen it may take a few moments to shake the "This is Tom Hanks with a mustache" out of your head, but somewhere during that first discussion with Travers (which was NOT what I expected, and was excellent) you'll forget that and from that point forward...he's Uncle Walt. The speech patterns, words chosen, mannerisms and body language all sell the character perfectly.

Hanks showed his skill with character acting in a way he hasn't, in my opinion, since Forrest Gump. You'll find yourself adoring this character, and seeing glimpses of the ethics and traits (both personal and business) which made Walt so successful in his lifetime, and a glimpse of the inner child underneath as well as a stark reminder that Walt Disney, too...was human.

More Music...



But, this movie isn't really about any of these characters. And, while there are three "leads" for marketing reasons, there really is only one. Emma Thompson as PL Travers. This is HER movie. And man, does Thompson own this role!

PL Travers is a strong willed, very private, obviously intelligent, and bluntly outspoken (to say the least) woman. An extremely complex character. It would have been easy for a lesser actor to slip and not be able to pull this off without the audience feeling one way or another about the character, but Thompson does this masterfully.

You will laugh at her, you will hate her. You will sympathize, you may even empathize. She'll make you frustrated, she'll make you smile. You will never come to love her, though you may come to like her.

But, by the end of the movie, you will understand her. And, that is the point of this film.

9219accf0fc7a849aa8152682647bba0605e6857.jpg


You'll note I've peppered this review with music. That is for a reason. Thomas Newman's score is provocative and touching. It hearkens back to the style of film score in the 90s, reminiscent of Forrest Gump or Meet Joe Black. The music doesn't just accompany the story, it helps to TELL the story. So, I felt it was worth special mention.

More music...and, this is from the PL Travers story meeting tapes. That's really the Sherman Brothers singing. You can tell that PL Travers, while she didn't like that the movie was to be a musical, she did appreciate the song. You can hear her singing along softly...



As a tip, stay through the credits, at least until they start to scroll. You won't be disappointed. There is also a very touching dedication at the very end (though it's only words, it will mean a lot to Disney Fans, and was obviously last minute).

Tom_Hanks_Diane_Disney_Miller.jpg


There were about 20 people in the theater with me when I was there, and out of that, only one group (a couple) left during the credit scroll. No one left before the credits started to scroll. To explain, the credits are in two parts...the "post show" credits, for lack of a better term, which are easily worth sticking through, and the scrolling credits. NO ONE left when the credits started, even though the movie didn't indicate that there would be a reason to stay.

The rest of the theater stayed all the way through the scrolling credits. This is a movie that will leave you at the end feeling like you need to just sit there for a bit during the credits so you can contemplate and appreciate what you just saw.

Yes, it's THAT good.

In summary, this movie is hands down a masterpiece. One of the best movies I think I have ever seen. This is not a story about Walt, or even Mary Poppins or the making of that movie. This is a story of love and loss. Depression, coping and moving on. The rest is merely a framework to tell that story. And, they told it magnificently.

I give it 10 out of 10 spoonfuls of sugar.

Saving-Mr-Banks1.jpg

I waswonderingif you could share the final message? I caught most of the credits but had to leave before the very end
 

Tom

Beta Return
I waswonderingif you could share the final message? I caught most of the credits but had to leave before the very end

You'll just have to stay through them when you go see it again, since that's going to be a must-do for many of us :)

But honestly, I don't know which specific message he was talking about.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I waswonderingif you could share the final message? I caught most of the credits but had to leave before the very end
They just dedicated it to Diane Disney Miller. It was unexpected, but a nice touch for those who know who she was. Nothing special, nothing to rewatch the movie just to see.

The pre-scroll credits, however, are a must see.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
They just dedicated it to Diane Disney Miller. It was unexpected, but a nice touch for those who know who she was. Nothing special, nothing to rewatch the movie just to see.

The pre-scroll credits, however, are a must see.

Yes, they are, because...


SPOILER


...one of those audio tapes Travers insisted on being made is played, and you actually hear her saying "NO NO NO!" LOL!!!!
 

Mad Stitch

Well-Known Member
Just got back from the movie. A little help. What was Travers response to Walt during the premiere? I couldn't make out what she said and it was a critical point of the movie.
 

jdmdisney99

Well-Known Member
Just got back from the movie. A little help. What was Travers response to Walt during the premiere? I couldn't make out what she said and it was a critical point of the movie.
I assumed she said she didn't like the animation, "joking" that that was the reason she was crying, but I could be wrong.
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
The film has leaked online straight dvd rip quality. This always happens with december releases that are up for academy awards. Someone always grabs ahold of the for your consideration copy and leaks it, at least I can watch it in the comfort of my flat screen :)
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
The film has leaked online straight dvd rip quality. This always happens with december releases that are up for academy awards. Someone always grabs ahold of the for your consideration copy and leaks it, at least I can watch it in the comfort of my flat screen :)

That's bad. Piracy hurts the industry.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
One thing I am a bit sad about is that the opening song (without Colin's voice over) is not available on the soundtrack. I'd love to get that whole composition. Maybe they sell the sheet music of that arrangement?
 

harveyt0206

Well-Known Member
We just came home from seeing this movie. It was so wonderful! My love for Disney was A gift given to me by my Father, who passed away when I was young. I only had one family vacation with Daddy before he died, and that was to Walt Disney World. That first trip embedded a life long love and devotion for all things Disney. This movie touched on so many emotional hallmarks for me. I think Tom Hanks and Emma Thompson were perfection in their roles. And Colin Farrell was....well...NOT Colin Farrell. His performance was unlike anything I've ever seen him do. I thought he was magnificent.

I hope that everyone gives this movie a chance. Please do not get hung up on whether or not it is 100% accurate. All movies take a bit of poetic license with their subject matter. What we have here is a love story to Mrs. Travers (you must call her MRS. Travers, she has earned that respect :)), as well as to Walt, to dreams and to fighting for something you love and believe in with all your heart.

Bottom line - I loved it and I hope everyone else does too.
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
Wonderful film, even though certain parts were heavily romanticized I feel overall it did a great job of providing a view into P.L travers. I feel if she were around she would have been satisfied with this picture for the most part, much more satisfied than she was with Mary poppins.
 

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