Save the Adventurers Club

71jason

71jason

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unkadug said:
There's only one reason for not bringing the club back, and that's saving face.
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Unfortunately, when the faces being saved belong to the guys who would sign off on the re-opening, that's a pretty big reason. :p

Seriously, tho, I agree; there is no financial or guest satisfaction reason to leave PI as is.

Arewethereyet! said:
As I have mentioned in another thread I see similarities on a much larger scale with what is going on with EPCOT.
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I hadn't ever thought of it that way before, but as soon as I read this, yeah, total agreement. I've been trying to explain what's wrong with what was my favorite park from 1983 - late 00s, and you just captured it in a nutshell.
 
John

John

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It is getting close to hijacking the thread and I certianally dont want to do that, but to fully understand what happened to AC/PI you have to understand what is going on with TDO as a whole.

The entire PI issue has become a boondoggle. They really have no clue what to do with it. They dont want it to be a reincarnation of PI, It seems they dont want it to be just more shopping and resturants ....although I think at first that is excatly what they wanted to do. But learned quickly there wasnt any outside vendors bannging on their door to get in. Now....they havnt a clue what to do. They have reimagined the area atleast twice.

Now inspite of the financial losses it seems they are more intrested in saving face instead of money. This is where I am at a loss. Even more tragic for TDO would be to do something with this area that wasnt successful. If they decide to put eateries or outside vedors in there and these vendors didnt meet financial expectations and in a year or two close.....it would be even more disastorous for TDO. I think that is where we see why there hasnt been any movement in progress. Whatever is done will have to be atleast semi successful. In this economy TDO can no longer believe that everything they touch will turn to gold.


I dont think AC will be ressurected without somekind of ressurection of PI....a PI 2.0 of sorts. I think in their minds that is an alternative....but it is wayyyyyyy wayyyy down on the list of possibilities.
 
MDPFan89

MDPFan89

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Here's your chance to post on the "official" Disney Parks Blog about the lack of Adventurers Club or P.I.

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trs518

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KungalooshAL said:
indeed !!!
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I can't remember if it's been discussed here on not, but I heard one of the reasons that PI was closed, was due to the amount of drunk driving that was going on. Disney was in a unique position because the people were getting drunk on their property, driving on their property, and injuring other people staying on property.

I have never been to the Adventures Club, but I was at Aulani this past week and did get to see some of the artifacts that they placed in Aunty's Beach House. They used them to create a Man Cave space, where the kids could watch TV. They even had a letter from the Adventures Club to the fictional owner of Aunty's Beach House.
 
wm49rs

wm49rs

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trs518 said:
I can't remember if it's been discussed here on not, but I heard one of the reasons that PI was closed, was due to the amount of drunk driving that was going on. Disney was in a unique position because the people were getting drunk on their property, driving on their property, and injuring other people staying on property.

I have never been to the Adventures Club, but I was at Aulani this past week and did get to see some of the artifacts that they placed in Aunty's Beach House. They used them to create a Man Cave space, where the kids could watch TV. They even had a letter from the Adventures Club to the fictional owner of Aunty's Beach House.
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That was not one of the issues. It's been discussed around these parts before, and debunked. Unfortunately, short-sightedness and profit margins were the two greatest culprits.....
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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KungalooshAL said:
in all the times I was at P.I., I never saw anyone that prompted me to hope that he/she wasn't driving home that night...
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I've seen quite a few back when the clubs were open. I mean, they weren't falling down and slobbering. But they were tripping over their own feet and obviously intoxicated and making complete fools of themselves. And yes, I know they were intoxicated. Grow up with a drunk as a father and you'll know what it looks like. Them coming out of the clubs acting like this only went to solidify this conclusion.

All that being said, I have never heard of anyone coming out of the Adventurer's Club drunk. I'd like to have seen them leave the AC and maybe a couple of others. I don't think they had any serious party clubs down there but it was the people that made the atmosphere intolerable at times.
 
John

John

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G00fyDad said:
I've seen quite a few back when the clubs were open. I mean, they weren't falling down and slobbering. But they were tripping over their own feet and obviously intoxicated and making complete fools of themselves. And yes, I know they were intoxicated. Grow up with a drunk as a father and you'll know what it looks like. Them coming out of the clubs acting like this only went to solidify this conclusion.

All that being said, I have never heard of anyone coming out of the Adventurer's Club drunk. I'd like to have seen them leave the AC and maybe a couple of others. I don't think they had any serious party clubs down there but it was the people that made the atmosphere intolerable at times.
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First of all to undersand PI and AC you would need to understand the history of PI and how it got to be what it was and where it ended up. It has been discussed a nauseum and I will refresh so to speak. The real problems started when the turnstyles came down. Not to blame it all on the locals but it was easier for a segment of the population to be able to afford to visit PI.

WDW guest didnt have much of a problem forking out $21.00 just to get thru the gate....they were on vacation to have a good time. The majority of those guest stayed on property, thus most didnt drive. Second, it goes without saying that when you mix alcohol and stupidity there will always be some dumb fool who decides to get behind a wheel of a car. Plus if this was a huge factor in TDO's decision then they would do away with alcohol in ALL areas of WDW. (see EPCOT)

Lastly alcohol dosnt need to be involved at all when it comes to people acting stupid and ruining the atmosphere of WDW. I have been witness to many of idiots in all the parks and other areas that would ruin the atmosphere.The only stupidity that lead to the closing of AC / PI came from management.
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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Arewethereyet! said:
First of all to undersand PI and AC you would need to understand the history of PI and how it got to be what it was and where it ended up. It has been discussed a nauseum and I will refresh so to speak. The real problems started when the turnstyles came down. Not to blame it all on the locals but it was easier for a segment of the population to be able to afford to visit PI.

WDW guest didnt have much of a problem forking out $21.00 just to get thru the gate....they were on vacation to have a good time. The majority of those guest stayed on property, thus most didnt drive. Second, it goes without saying that when you mix alcohol and stupidity there will always be some dumb fool who decides to get behind a wheel of a car. Plus if this was a huge factor in TDO's decision then they would do away with alcohol in ALL areas of WDW. (see EPCOT)

Lastly alcohol dosnt need to be involved at all when it comes to people acting stupid and ruining the atmosphere of WDW. I have been witness to many of idiots in all the parks and other areas that would ruin the atmosphere.The only stupidity that lead to the closing of AC / PI came from management.
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I don't disagree with that at all. I know the full story of PI and it's history. But those turnstiles did not stop turning because the person was drunk. Those intoxicated people still made their way out of PI and into the general populace. Of course, it wasn't very often and never ruined my trips but it just wasn't something one wanted to see while at Disney.

Yes, I place full blame for the closure of AC and the "better" parts of PI squarely on the heads of TDO. :hammer: I've heard the rumors on here and elsewhere that they wanted to make it a Mardi Gras style section. Wow. Can you imagine how that would be a mistake?! :lol:
 
Did Knee

Did Knee

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G00fyDad said:
I've heard the rumors on here and elsewhere that they wanted to make it a Mardi Gras style section. Wow. Can you imagine how that would be a mistake?! :lol:
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So True. Gratuitous display of mammaries in exchange for plastic beads is VERY un-Disney........darn it.......:ROFLOL:
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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They have the area already placed in the dumbest location (in the middle of DTD) when they should have put PI where Westside is now. But since it is already where it is, bring AC back and theme the whole area to a jungle theme. Then place shops/restaurants here and there throughout. Maybe even an AA here and there.
 
ElvisMickey

ElvisMickey

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G00fyDad said:
They have the area already placed in the dumbest location (in the middle of DTD) when they should have put PI where Westside is now. But since it is already where it is, bring AC back and theme the whole area to a jungle theme. Then place shops/restaurants here and there throughout. Maybe even an AA here and there.
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When PI first opened, there was no West Side. It was only the Marketplace and PI. :)
 
Z

zulemara

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G00fyDad said:
My mistake. I hadn't thought of that. :) I have maybe gone to Downtown Disney once before Westside was built. I guess in my mind, Westside had always been there.
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When you really look at things going all the way back, the poor planning of the West Side is what ultimately lead to PI's downfall. Had they taken PI and repositioned it, spreading the clubs out down towards Cirque and put shops and restaurants along the way, they would have ended up with more of what CW has. Either that, or they needed to keep PI gated and make a wide, safe path around it.
 
DznyGrlSD

DznyGrlSD

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MDPFan89 said:
Here's your chance to post on the "official" Disney Parks Blog about the lack of Adventurers Club or P.I.

"Whether you’re on a family vacation or a romantic getaway for two, Disney Parks and Resorts always has something to offer the kids as well as the adults. If you’re looking for excitement, relaxation, or a romantic meal with your sweetie, check out these posts from the Disney Parks Blog for some adult-only options."
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2012/03/take-5-adult-fun-with-disney-parks-and-resorts/
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Posted.
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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zulemara said:
When you really look at things going all the way back, the poor planning of the West Side is what ultimately lead to PI's downfall. Had they taken PI and repositioned it, spreading the clubs out down towards Cirque and put shops and restaurants along the way, they would have ended up with more of what CW has. Either that, or they needed to keep PI gated and make a wide, safe path around it.
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If they were to put clubs back in then I'd rather they built a whole seperate area away from the DTD area for them.
 
jt04

jt04

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G00fyDad said:
If they were to put clubs back in then I'd rather they built a whole seperate area away from the DTD area for them.
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Yes, there is a nice secluded area near Coranado Springs. A little swampy and overgrown but it could be just the place.

Or an adults resort with a PI type area where Flamingo Crossing was intended. That'd work.
 

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