No, I'm not. I'm simply referring to Florida's version of OSHA as OSHA. As a federal prosecutor, I'm well aware of jurisdictional matters.
That was my point (which you clearly missed). Whenever Disney installs nets, or ugly guard rails (or whatever) as a response to an incident or some investigation, people on these and other boards immediately blame overregulation or frivolous lawsuits for such ugly modicfications. My point is that Disney, in meeting guidelines, opted for the easiest, cheapest and ugliest solution instead of attempting to integrate the safety requirements, OSHA (whichever states' version is applicable) didn't tell Disney "Put up those ugly nets" or "put up ugly green un-themed guardrails."
The Florida version of OSHA falls under the Division of Disease Control and Health Protection. They are funded by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). They have absolutely nothing to do with regulating WDW. Also, there is no OSHA (DOL) approved plan for the state of Florida.
I never said they regulate WDW, at least not in the way you keep implying. And you are correct that there is no Florida version of OSHA that regulates WDW (I wasn't sure if Forida had one or not). That means Federal OSHA regulates all employers in Florida with regards to worker safety, and that includes WDW.
You keep saying that, but I don't recall anyone arguing with you. Though you leave out one important point: GUEST injury or death. If an employee is injured or killed, you can bet there is no voluntary aspect for Disney's cooperation with OSHA.
I guess this is where we are disagreeing, because of the term "raid." It wasn't a "raid." OSHA was doing a follow-up inspection from an incident that was reported from 5 months ago...and while they were there they found other violations and cited Disneyland for them. The inspector didn't wake-up in the morning and decide "I'm going to shut down Space Mountain today." I don't believe any states with their own OSHA programs conduct random inspections, either.
For sure. As I said above, the Disneyland fines were not the result of a raid, but rather a follow-up inspection. Also, it is important to note that OSHA is a Federal agency which has jurisdiction in all 50 states. 22 states have their own version of OSHA which were approved by Federal OSHA and therefore those workers are protected by the state they work (but that doesn'e negate Federal OSHA's jurisdiction). And as you correctly stated above, Florida is NOT one of them. However, that doesn't mean Floridians are not protected. They are protected under Federal OSHA. Which includes WDW. And if an inspector is called to WDW for an investigation of a reported incident, s/he can inspect and write violations for anything s/he sees while there.
If you dig around LinkedIn, the CEO of Panera Bread speaks to this topic in reference to Ron Johnson and JCP. It showed up today and for the life of me I cannot find the article again.
Are there no Floridians working at Walt Disney World?
Yes, and there are also non Floridians working at WDW. All the workers are protected under Federal OSHA regardless of their residence. Guests are not protected under Federal OSHA even if they are Floridians. Therefore, Federal OSHA does not protect "Floridians" per se.
You know what I meant, you are using semantics to try to prove yourself right when in fact you were attempting to mislead by stating OSHA had no jurisdiction over WDW. OSHA regulates employee safety. Florida does not have a state program that is approved by OSHA, so OSHA at the Federal level asserts jurisdiction over Florida businesses, including WDW. If Space Mountain derails, OSHA could care less. If it derails and hits an employee, you can bet the house that OSHA will be there investigating.
NOBODY DISAGREED WITH YOU. You keep bringing this up. However, OSHA DOES regulate the theme park industry with regards to EMPLOYEE safety, and you keep circling around that fact by pulling up the same tired information that no one has disputed, but which is irrelevant. I'm not saying the regulations apply strictly for theme park settings. You keep arguing that OSHA has no jurisdiction over WDW, and I'm telling you you are wrong.
Which is irrelevant to this thread. OSHA regulates employee safety at WDW (and other businesses). No one has disputed that it has no jurisdiction over the guest safety aspect of the industry.
He knew what I meant. He knew I was using Floridians as the catch-all for employees in Florida, he's just being argumentative.
Back when I worked at Six Flags (in Chicago), they were very strict with safety in the rides department. We could not walk the track area without placing the "tag out" sign over the control panel; we could not walk the track area without a hard hat; we could not cross coaster tracks except through an empty row of a parked train, and only after alerting all hosts on the platform and a visual cue from the control panel that s/he is not touching the control panel; leads were required to sign-off a checklist (twice per day) of items associated with that ride, and if they checked "no" the ride could only be opened with a Supervisor's approval. Then there was more obvious things, like paying attention to the ride while in motion, not dispatching trains with guests on the unload platform, physically checking all restraints, not operating flat rides with gates open, doing safety spiels. And let me tell you, at least back then, it was very easy to get safety violations...and the second one removed you from the rides department. They were very strict back then. I remember being shocked at DIsney's procedures in Florida, and how lax they appeared (at least on the surface).
It's hard to understand what you mean when you say something that is vague and misleading. WDW has many employees that are not Florida residents. It has many employees that are not residents of the USA.
Once again you mention "Florida's version of OSHA" and you say that you recall that the fines they imposed were not that high. That is just gibberish.
This makes no sense. Again, more gibberish.
