SA VI Stanza X: Disney Royale! Open Brainstorming Thread

[spacemt354]

So here's how this project I think could work - I have some experience pseudo-guiding the creation of Club 32's Sydney Disneyland in 2017 and also revamping Disneyland Brazil for the SAU - so I think this type of project has the potential to be very successful if we are organized and work together!

1. Location
- I think @D Hindley brings up a lot of strong points for Mumbai and given his travel background that would really help us set up a base of realism for future generations without all of us having to research into the economics/culture of the region. It's got a nice ring to it too!

2. The Scope
- This project is for the park so most of our focus should be on its design - we should stick together to plan out the lay of the lands so to speak before branching off and doing our own aspects. I also think we should focus on quality over quantity. Look at the timing (this due next Monday) and look at opening day lineups. Let's make some solid lands as baselines, with room for future expansions, a couple E-tickets, and some balancing attractions, parade, fireworks, cohesion!

3. Our Strengths
- Everyone here has a different skillset that has been put on display throughout the competition. We've seen emerging artists, writers, etc - now is the time where for this machine to work fine tuned, we are all cogs in the wheel that fit together! We'll figure this out as we go on.

4. Getting Everyone Together
- I remember reading in Stanza V some folks weren't a fan of this format in open brainstorming or had trouble with it - so I'd want to curtail that right away! This can be hard to follow sometimes in one big thread so I'd suggest if you work better in PMs - move to a PM and check back here for updates, rather than everything mushed into one public thread. I'd also suggest since everyone is in this together - that folks like @Suchomimus and any other past Season 6 players chime in if you have a solid idea - because this park will be around for future seasons - this is a chance to make your mark! And any onlookers as well @DisneyManOne and so on the more the merrier in this brainstorming phase - it will make it easier once we divide up to have all hands on deck making the park's completion happen quicker.

 

[spacemt354]

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to build a Disneyland Resort from scratch.​

And for folks waiting on the start of The Themeing Games after SA your input here would be great and it could act as a warmup round for the next game!

@Basketbuddy101 @ThatGuyFromFlorida - more than welcome here!

 

[spacemt354]

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to build a Disneyland Resort from scratch.​

And also folks old and new that are very talented at creating their own Disney Parks - your knowledge and skill would be helpful as well! @MANEATINGWREATH @WEDway Inc & Company LLC

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

The biggest cultural barrier seems to be a dislike of British culture, stemming from India's long history of British colonization. India is also an enormously religious culture, with half-a-dozen publicly visible major religions which don't always get along - so we should simply not reference those.

More positively, India loves festivals. Loves! Holi, Diwali, westernized holidays like Christmas, frequent all-night weddings. Indian art is incredibly colorful and highly detailed, which would be a good aesthetic style for a Disneyland. They love singing & dancing, as seen in the countless Bollywood musicals - which are all well over 3 hours long. I believe that an Indian park should heavily focus on live entertainment, including parades and many indoors musical shows. This also helps guest escape the humidity, which is a definite problem in Mumbai.

There are some negatives with the location which we'll have to deal with. Mumbai's weather is like Florida's but more extreme. There's also monsoon season, which lasts for several months and causes severe flooding. The park would need enough indoors experiences (plus perhaps covered passageways like Paris' Main Street arcades) so it doesn't shut down for month-long periods. I believe that if we built the resort on landfill like Tokyo Disney (perhaps in the Indian Ocean), and elevated it so waters drain outwards, that we'll avoid these problems.

Mumbai is also very polluted, worse than Beijing. (Better than Delhi though.) This too means indoors activities. It also means no fireworks, so we'll want projections and water fountains and etc. instead.

More positive stuff: I visited the Taj Mahal, and I was hugely impressed by the site design. Honestly, it felt veeeeery similar to the castle at the end of Main Street. This is something to discuss in more detail later.

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It has been difficult learning which Disney properties are most popular in India. Tangled is well liked, because the sky lanterns are a lot like Diwali. Otherwise all I found were the Top 10 highest grossing foreign (non-Indian) films - 3 Avengers films (Endgame, Infinity War, Ultron), and the live action versions of Jungle Book (set in India!) and Lion King. (They also liked Jurassic World and several Fast & Furious films.)

Love the idea of a resort in India. I made a haphazard attempt at one during sywtbai a few years ago so getting a fully fleshed out one would be a great challenge for all the reasons you mentioned. Marvel and Jungle Book matches what I had box office wise as well. I ended up using Bengaluru to help with climate but anywhere there is going to be a challenge.

You mentioned Paris' arcades, wonder if we could use something like Tokyo Disney's covered square but with an altered roof to help mute some of the sun/heat

 

[mickeyfan5534]

I believe that an Indian park should heavily focus on live entertainment, including parades and many indoors musical shows.

Do I have the pitch for this. Team Yesterday, Ever After Happily shall live!

 

[NateD1226]

I believe that an Indian park should heavily focus on live entertainment, including parades and many indoors musical shows. This also helps guest escape the humidity, which is a definite problem in Mumbai.

Another parade yay!

 

[Brer Panther]

I personally don't have an option on where exactly we build it, but I do have a lot of ideas for non-cloned rides.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

Do I have the pitch for this. Team Yesterday, Ever After Happily shall live!

So you know how the best part of Magic Happens is the back half with that amazing song and the great theme of 'Moments leading to Happy Endings'? Yeah, that, but as an entire parade and long AF. Moments like Pinocchio becoming a real boy, Prince Charming putting on Cinderella's slipper, The Prince waking Snow White, Aurora dancing with Philip while her dress changes colors, Belle breaking the Beast's curse, and Elsa thawing the fjords recreated on the street. That's literally top of my head ideas but yeah I'm heckin here for this theme

 

[NateD1226]

I love the Mumbai location! It seems we could do a lot with it

 

[spacemt354]

It seems like everyone is digging the Mumbai location - not to dismiss any of the other interesting options but if we can give today for @D Hindley maybe to give us his preliminary thoughts, we'll have a great start to be able to get going!

@Brer Panther what are some of your attraction ideas?

 

[mickeyfan5534]

I personally don't have an option on where exactly we build it, but I do have a lot of ideas for non-cloned rides.

An entirely new slate of Fantasyland dark rides is a must. Something scary (Snow White analogue), something adventurous (Pinocchio analogue), something with wonder (Alice analogue), something insane (Mr. Toad analogue), and something beautiful (Peter Pan analogue).

 

[mickeyfan5534]

An entirely new slate of Fantasyland dark rides is a must. Something scary (Snow White analogue), something adventurous (Pinocchio analogue), something with wonder (Alice analogue), something insane (Mr. Toad analogue), and something beautiful (Peter Pan analogue).

On top of this, Jungle Book is a must for somewhere in the park (*cough* Adventureland) as is Avengers Campus.

 

[spacemt354]

@D Hindley mentioned a lot of live entertainment being centerstage in a possible Mumbai park - I think we have plenty of talented folks for that! @mickeyfan5534 @TheOriginalTiki @MANEATINGWREATH

 

[spacemt354]

And @FigmentPigments I saw you around the other day - welcome back! It's great to see you - if you'd like to join in that would be awesome!

 

[NateD1226]

On top of this, Jungle Book is a must for somewhere in the park (*cough* Adventureland) as is Avengers Campus.

And Tangled! It would work as a beautiful castle with a nice E-Ticket in Fantasyland

 

[spacemt354]

And Tangled! It would work as a beautiful castle with a nice E-Ticket in Fantasyland

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An entirely new slate of Fantasyland dark rides is a must. Something scary (Snow White analogue), something adventurous (Pinocchio analogue), something with wonder (Alice analogue), something insane (Mr. Toad analogue), and something beautiful (Peter Pan analogue).

A Fantasyland like this is an absolute must - I'm sure others have some thoughts as well - but it would be great to get some brainstorming flowing on it (maybe with it's own thread or PM

Something I've noticed is you have to manually set alerts on this thread - however with PMs you get the alerts to stay updated so a PM might work best (and you can fit dozens of people in them now)

 

[CookieMouse]

If I can join in for this, I’m in! I think I could incorporate my idea for a wall-e themed space mountain!

 

[CookieMouse]

The ride would be called wall-e: runaway rocket rescue! And would actually take place after the movie in this iteration, where wall-e accidentally sets off a rocket that Is meant to transport people to the axiom, only it’s sent to it’s location That it was at in the movie (the one in space), which would leave wall-e, eve, and the humans to try and stop the rocket from stranding guests in space.

 

[Outbound]

The ride would be called wall-e: runaway rocket rescue! And would actually take place after the movie in this iteration, where wall-e accidentally sets off a rocket that Is meant to transport people to the axiom, only it’s sent to it’s location That it was at in the movie (the one in space), which would leave wall-e, eve, and the humans to try and stop the rocket from stranding guests in space.

That’s a cool idea!
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I think for Mumbai we should ditch Frontierland, Critter Country, and _____ Square. It holds no value in India. If anything Adventureland could become our Indian History land. I think we should build it up as a significant area, maybe around the scale of Hong Kong.

Then, instead of Fantasyland leaning to the right, it should lean left. That opens up the space usually in Adventure + Frontier to Tomorrowland and Avengers Campus.

 

[D Hulk]

Everything getting proposed so far is PERFECT! Let's keep on developing!

You mentioned Paris' arcades, wonder if we could use something like Tokyo Disney's covered square but with an altered roof to help mute some of the sun/heat

We can certainly used TDL's covered square, and improve upon in. Tokyo bungles the castle reveal by keeping their Main Street equivalent covered until the hub. If we limit it to the city hall plaza, we won't have that issue.

Let's also consider adding similar roofs to the central hubs of each land (especially Tomorrowland, for controlled futuristic lighting all day long). With covered walkways connecting them all. But with plenty of outdoors space as well.

Do I have the pitch for this. Team Yesterday, Ever After Happily shall live!

YES YES YES! GO FOR IT!

Would you also have any ideas for a nighttime castle show? We can't use fireworks (Mumbai's pollution), but we'll have a big Tangled castle to work with. Work in the sky lanterns from "Now I See the Light" as a centerpiece!

An entirely new slate of Fantasyland dark rides is a must. Something scary (Snow White analogue), something adventurous (Pinocchio analogue), something with wonder (Alice analogue), something insane (Mr. Toad analogue), and something beautiful (Peter Pan analogue).

Again, YES YES YES! Love this.

On top of this, Jungle Book is a must for somewhere in the park (*cough* Adventureland) as is Avengers Campus.

How about a Jungle Book retheme for Splash Mountain in Adventureland? Hosts, would this be far enough away from a clone?

We NEED Avengers stuff. If Avengers Campus is too much for an opening day park, let's give Tomorrowland a headlining Avengers ride which can later anchor a new Campus expansion.

@D Hindley mentioned a lot of live entertainment being centerstage in a possible Mumbai park - I think we have plenty of talented folks for that! @mickeyfan5534 @TheOriginalTiki @MANEATINGWREATH

YES again. In addition to the daytime parade and nighttime castle show (and maybe a daytime castle stage show? how do people feel about those?), I feel there should be 3 major theater shows, one for Adventureland/Frontierland (Lion King maybe?), one in Fantasyland (Mickey and the ______ style), and one in Tomorrowland. We have some creators who could work wonders in these venues!

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More thoughts to come. Let's start discussing the traditional Castle Park lands and what we might do with them.