RUMOR: WDW purposely restricting FOP fastpasses

Mr Ferret 75

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Are you suggesting they built the ride and are now hoping people won't want to ride it?
If less people ride it then there is less cast required and less mainenance so therefore much more money to be put into stock buybacks or overseas park renovation #ThanksDLP
 

Jeff456

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Just hit my FP+ window, I could not book a fastpass at any time for FOP at my first visit to AK (62 days out) but 69 and 73 days out I got 9am FOP fastpasses.... the popularity must be insane.
 

trampdog

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Just hit my FP+ window, I could not book a fastpass at any time for FOP at my first visit to AK (62 days out) but 69 and 73 days out I got 9am FOP fastpasses.... the popularity must be insane.

You see? The simple thing I am trying to get across some of the density in this forum is that Disney is testing the reduction of Fastpasses in anticipation of the paid unlimited option.

I tried at my window this morning. I mean no more than two seconds after:

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matt9112

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Are you suggesting they built the ride and are now hoping people won't want to ride it?

I'm suggesting that operationally Disney gives two ducks what you do once you pay. In fact they would rather you spend all day shopping and ride nothing. now obviously I doubt that's the case here but I wouldn't be surprised if they are testing ways to spread the crowd out across the entire park no. the rides purpose is to add capacity to the park and thus generate additional ticket sales. if they cared about you actually riding something they would build attractions with higher throughput and not also overlays of there most popular movie onto an 80s ride system with crap capacity but I digress.

in a perfect operational sense they want the crowds as evenly spaces as possible. if one ride has a 200 minute wait and another has 5 minutes from an efficiency stand point there is a problem.
 

peter11435

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You see? The simple thing I am trying to get across some of the density in this forum is that Disney is testing the reduction of Fastpasses in anticipation of the paid unlimited option.

I tried at my window this morning. I mean no more than two seconds after:

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Unless I missed a post at no point did you try to make the point that this was in preparation for paid fastpass.
 

PuertoRekinSam

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my understanding from people I met who work in IE (industrial engineering) is when a new ride opens they purposely deflate the FP+ numbers... especially after FEA going down almost nonstop. This way if there is a down time you don't have 2X or more Guest then you can handle returning at once.

Once they feel confident with the attraction reliability they will bump it up. But this can take a few months.
 

peter11435

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my understanding from people I met who work in IE (industrial engineering) is when a new ride opens they purposely deflate the FP+ numbers... especially after FEA going down almost nonstop. This way if there is a down time you don't have 2X or more Guest then you can handle returning at once.

Once they feel confident with the attraction reliability they will bump it up. But this can take a few months.
Correct. If flight of passage was issuing the standard 60-80 percent of its capacity as fastpass inventory then standby would come to a complete halt with the loss of a single theater. The loss of a second theater would make fastpass seem more like standby. And the attraction would never recover from a full downtime.
 

monothingie

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You see? The simple thing I am trying to get across some of the density in this forum is that Disney is testing the reduction of Fastpasses in anticipation of the paid unlimited option.

I tried at my window this morning. I mean no more than two seconds after:

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At our window we got it on two separate days for a party of 5.

This whole conversation is nonsense. Totally based on a speculation with absolutely no proof to say it's true or false.

It makes no sense for Disney to cut down the FP inventory because that means the guest is waiting in line instead of eating, shopping, or spending money on something else.
 

Casper Gutman

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It's ALMOST like letting people get 3 FPs - and thus letting them stand (either virtually or physically) in four lines simultaneously, theoretically quadrupling the number of people in line in the park at any one time - has a negative impact on wait times.
 

floridagirl57

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Wasn't this the "strategy" with FEA when it first opened? There were no FP before 11 am (I believe that was the time but memory may be hazy). This made the standby queue incredibly efficient for the first few hours of operation. I rope dropped Epcot Labor Day weekend, rode Soarin and SE, and still the FEA line was only 45 mins. The line moved the entire time and wasn't a bad wait at all, since there were no FP returns.
 

bhg469

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Wasn't this the "strategy" with FEA when it first opened? There were no FP before 11 am (I believe that was the time but memory may be hazy). This made the standby queue incredibly efficient for the first few hours of operation. I rope dropped Epcot Labor Day weekend, rode Soarin and SE, and still the FEA line was only 45 mins. The line moved the entire time and wasn't a bad wait at all, since there were no FP returns.
It would be so great if fastpass would just go away completely or make it a premium option only. We would get better experiences across the board. The Ipad generation would never have it though. Who needs a beautiful queue when caiden aiden and braiden have angry birds?
 

Casper Gutman

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It would be so great if fastpass would just go away completely or make it a premium option only. We would get better experiences across the board. The Ipad generation would never have it though. Who needs a beautiful queue when caiden aiden and braiden have angry birds?

I agree with all of this except for the blaming guests bit. FP+ is the horrible result of a lot of bad ideas by Disney management, not something forced on them by guests.
 

bhg469

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I agree with all of this except for the blaming guests bit. FP+ is the horrible result of a lot of bad ideas by Disney management, not something forced on them by guests.
Well guests have been conditioned, it doesnt mean they arent partially to blame. There are guests that just like the queues and understand the attraction starts when you enter them. This gets lost on most guests and they are ignorant of the fact that the ride vehicle is only phase 2 of most rides. Disney plays a major role in dumbing down the attractions and the parks for them but the average guest certainly play their part.
 

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