RUMOR: WDW purposely restricting FOP fastpasses

DisneyGentlemanV2.0

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This is a fop:

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This....
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trampdog

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Original Poster
I'm curious where exactly your friend works

So you can get him fired? I gave you the info, figure it out. Hint, he plays with CUBES.

Holding back FP's for Flight of Passage means the standby line moves better. The OP's rationale doesn't make any sense.

Wrong. The stand-by line is artificially made longer by reducing FP.

I spoke to my other friend who actually works for the company that produces the FP software (which is used at other amusement parks other than disney in the area (HINT HINT), and can confirm thats what another "big park" in the area does. However, they limit so they can sell "unlimited" at a premium.

As I said, this is just a test at one attraction right now. Y'all don't have to get bent out of shape over the others. They're just naturally long waits :)..
 

truecoat

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So you can get him fired? I gave you the info, figure it out. Hint, he plays with CUBES.



Wrong. The stand-by line is artificially made longer by reducing FP.

I spoke to my other friend who actually works for the company that produces the FP software (which is used at other amusement parks other than disney in the area (HINT HINT), and can confirm thats what another "big park" in the area does. However, they limit so they can sell "unlimited" at a premium.

As I said, this is just a test at one attraction right now. Y'all don't have to get bent out of shape over the others. They're just naturally long waits :)..


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Kman101

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The OP I think is having a hard time expressing they are not talking about wait times. Or they are and just have no clue.

Physical line length increases, but wait times will go down. Bad Disney, how dare they manipulate the wait times to be shorter.

Exactly
 

YodaMan

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Let's say the capacity of a ride is 300 guests per hour. Now let's say that 2/3 of the capacity is dedicated to Fastpass. That means that 200 Fastpass guests come through every hour and ride almost immediately, and therefore 100 standby guests are able to ride each hour and have to wait their turn to do so.

But let's say we cut back on how many Fastpasses are handed out. Instead we halve that and only 1/3 of the capacity is dedicated to Fastpass. Now 100 Fastpasses are handed out and 100 Fastpass guests come through each hour, but now 200 standby guests get to come through each hour instead. So by halving the number of Fastpasses that are handed out, there are now twice as many standby guests that get to ride each hour.

This is the simplest description and does nothing to factor in how many guests with Fastpass actually return for their Fastpass, nor does it reflect the discussion of whether guests are more likely to enter a long, fast-moving Standby line or a short, slow-moving one. But hopefully you understand why your argument is flawed.
 

natatomic

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So you can get him fired? I gave you the info, figure it out. Hint, he plays with CUBES.



Wrong. The stand-by line is artificially made longer by reducing FP.

I spoke to my other friend who actually works for the company that produces the FP software (which is used at other amusement parks other than disney in the area (HINT HINT), and can confirm thats what another "big park" in the area does. However, they limit so they can sell "unlimited" at a premium.

As I said, this is just a test at one attraction right now. Y'all don't have to get bent out of shape over the others. They're just naturally long waits :)..
It genuinely concerns me that your friend, who supposedly actually produces the FP software for all of Disney, thinks that increasing FP numbers decreases standby wait times. No wonder standby lines are often at a standstill if the people creating the ratios have no idea how simple percentages work.
 

peter11435

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So you can get him fired? I gave you the info, figure it out. Hint, he plays with CUBES.

Because I'm not sure he exists and if he does I dont think you (or him) understand what he does, or fastpass for that matter

Wrong. The stand-by line is artificially made longer by reducing FP.

I spoke to my other friend who actually works for the company that produces the FP software (which is used at other amusement parks other than disney in the area (HINT HINT), and can confirm thats what another "big park" in the area does. However, they limit so they can sell "unlimited" at a premium.

As I said, this is just a test at one attraction right now. Y'all don't have to get bent out of shape over the others. They're just naturally long waits :)..

Yeah, no. Fastpass and standby do not have the relationship you seem to think. Fastpasses for certain attractions are sometimes restricted and kept artificially low but not for any of the reasons you (or your friend) seem to think and certainly not with the results you are referring to.
 

NearTheEars

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The OP I think is having a hard time expressing they are not talking about wait times. Or they are and just have no clue.

Physical line length increases, but wait times will go down. Bad Disney, how dare they manipulate the wait times to be shorter.

I think the OP believes the line and wait time are both longer now because of this.
 

matt9112

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The OP I think is having a hard time expressing they are not talking about wait times. Or they are and just have no clue.

Physical line length increases, but wait times will go down. Bad Disney, how dare they manipulate the wait times to be shorter.

more people in the line but it moves faster.
I don't think it reduces wait times because those additional people (that would have had fastpass elsewise) are now in line with you. if anything it sounds like they are simply attempting to run a lower FP ratio for the benefit of the wait times for fastpass. maybe they were getting long? so that the few who do get fastpasses can move through even quicker.

I think what the OP was trying to get at is that Disney is attempting to "fill" the line to capacity. however this flys in the face of there less lines more shopping ideology that fastpass was created for. However Pandora land is not very large and maybe in this particular area they want people in line?
the line is it's own kind of capacity to a degree if that makes sense so you have x riders per hour plus x riders in line at any given time or x riders in line per hour.
 

matt9112

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more people in the line but it moves faster.
I don't think it reduces wait times because those additional people (that would have had fastpass elsewise) are now in line with you. if anything it sounds like they are simply attempting to run a lower FP ratio for the benefit of the wait times for fastpass. maybe they were getting long? so that the few who do get fastpasses can move through even quicker.

I think what the OP was trying to get at is that Disney is attempting to "fill" the line to capacity. however this flys in the face of there less lines more shopping ideology that fastpass was created for. However Pandora land is not very large and maybe in this particular area they want people in line?
the line is it's own kind of capacity to a degree if that makes sense so you have x riders per hour plus x riders in line at any given time or x riders in line per hour.

sidenote: wonder if they are testing guest willingness to go ride other stuff and just skip FOP.
 

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