Sadly my mom, daughter and I cover the same ground about 10 times because we a constantly circling back to him and since we are a group of four we try to not spread out because I agree it is frustrating, but not as frustrating as it is to be disabled. I think people in general are just ruder these days.
It is a safety factor. There is no way to secure a ECV rider on the ECV in the event of an emergency stop or accident. The nature of an ECV is such that the rider has at least some degree of mobility and therefore can get off and sit in a more secure spot. Wheelchairs do allow for people sitting in them to be safely secured along with the chair, but, that is not so with ECV. So, getting out of their seats is a method to insure that they remain an ECV user and not have to be in a wheelchair because of a more serious problem.
Actually, they have seat belts for the ECV rider staying on the ECV if they don't want to transfer.
They cannot be connected to the vehicle itself, that is for the rider while riding only. ECV's have a tendency to be very top heavy and can easily tip-over if evasive action is required. All a seat belt would do for a person on a ECV in that event would be to trap him/her under the ECV. the restraints must be connected to the bus itself and there is no effective way for that to work with an ECV. Even if the law didn't require that action, you can bet that their insurance underwriters will and if Disney is self insured they will not risk anything that careless either.
Yes, they are attached to the bus. We see it used all the time.
This is absolutely correct. My mother in law always stays on the ECV during the bus ride.
That would be impossible for the ECV user to board a full bus it's hard enough getting those things on an empty bus, and since the ECV line up in a separate place it's kind of hard to determine who was there first, and you have to have an empty seat for the disabled person to sit down once they are off the scooter, anyone who was sitting in the place where the scooter goes would have to stand up, that just screams mayhem and a lot more tempers flaring than there already are, and 1 family member? So if a single parent is there with their kids and requires ecv or wheelchair (had a mom and kids we saw every morning last year) your going to separate parent from their children. I sure Disney put a lot of thought into the current system and with it lightly, yes I agree they need better enforcement on the number of family members able to board with the ECV it is supposed to be six but I see huge groups of 12 or more all the time and rarely does the driver separate them. And as a side note airlines almost never adhere to the 1 family member. Every time when my daughter and I get my Dad situation for boarding and me and my daughter start to head off to our spot in the boarding line the agent will call us back and board us with my parents.
OK, it is possible that something else has been invented since I last dealt with it (6 years ago), but, since there is nothing of a containing nature to secure the machines with, unless they have invented something new they are subjecting the person to a very bad day if they are using the original systems to secure both the rider and the ECV. I will assume that you have seen something new that I am unaware of, thanks for the information. However, they also cannot force a person to stay on the ECV since they do have some mobility anymore then they can force someone to use a seat-belt even with a wheelchair. If the passenger is willing to assume responsibility then, to some degree, it lessens Disney's responsibility. However, you can bet that if something happens... Disney will be fighting it in court and some lawyer will have his vision impaired by the dollar signs in his eyes.
Now you're just trolling aren't you!
I'm certainly not trolling. The buses have strong metal hooks at both the front and the rear of the ECV to secure it. It is locked into place, and cannot move while the bus is on motion. They never force a person to stay on the ECV, even if they know the bus will get completely full. I've never seen them even ask someone. They always ask them to take a seat, and the rider will state that they don't wish to transfer. A long seat belt then goes completely around the person. While it's not foolproof, since there aren't any seat belts on the regular seats, it's still more secure than the person simply sitting on the ECV with no restraint.
You are preaching to the choir. I am a strong supporter of people being able to use ECV's. The degree of safety is what is called into question here as it relates to the person on the ECV. They have always had restraints to hold the ECV in place, nothing new there, however, perched on top of an ECV throws off a humans center of balance and a loose fitting belt that maintained no solid anchor for the person to leverage against is like a yo-yo dangling at the end of an extended string. If the yo-yo is fastened and in the hand it is stable, extended out with no other support it has unlimited movement. It just plain is not safe. I don't see any company thinking that they aren't exposing themselves to major litigation by allowing people to automatically sit on an elevated seat with no solid sided or ability to maintain balance. Once they have let the person decide they have lessened their liability to some degree. I am also defending their right to get off the ECV and sit on a seat... something that others were complaining about. Read my other post completely and I think you will see what my stand on the situation is. People that feel it necessary to bad mouth the people that require assistance deserve to be dependent themselves. That tune would be completely different after that. My point is not to eliminate ECV's it is to encourage people that do need them to not stay on them when traveling on a bus. Get off the damn thing and sit in a seat where you can have some stability in travel. Restraints or no restraints, I have seen those things tip over in a quick turn or evasive action. Don't stay on them when in motion.
