Rooms for two.

[djmatthews]

My partner and I are considering going to WDW towards the end of next year ’03 or beginning of the year after ’04. I was doing some pricing up in the travel brochures and noticed how a couple would get stung by the under occupancy fees as all rooms at WDW seem to be for families. Does WDW offer rooms with just a double/king size bed in them, in any resort?


Cheers

 

[1000th_Guest]

??? Underoccupancy fees?

In WDW [well, pretty much the entire USA], you rent the room. You will pay fees to WDW if you put more than the expected number of people in the room, but that doesn't sound like your problem.

Maybe your travel agent is adding these fees? Can you send a pointer to a web site describing the fee schedule?

 

[djmatthews]

Right, I didn’t find it on a web site it was in the travel brochure. So I’ll explain the best I can.

Here is an example.

To stay at Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort between May 1st to May 14th it costs £1095 per person based on four sharing a room. If two people are to share one of these 4 person rooms you have to add £28 per person, per night as an under occupancy charge or supplement. Adding an extra £784 to the cost of the holiday just because only two are sharing. Now my question is, if Disney has rooms that only sleep two people (1 double bed) then surly these charges cannot be added.

Just to clarify if any one thinks the price is expensive, it is based on a 14 night package holiday including flights to and from the UK and includes the Ultimate park hopper ticket.

 

[lewisc]

Disney has rooms with a king bed. Disney (like almost all US hotels) prices the rooms for double occupancy. Kids are free and there is a small extra charge for the third and fourth adult. Two adults pay the same rate if they have a room with two double beds or one king bed.

I think the tour company is taking the total room charge and dividing by 4. They could have quoted the package as double occupancy with reduced addons for the 3rd and 4th person.

At least for people coming from the US, it's usually cheaper to book the trip on your own. Not sure if that's the case for people coming from England.

 

[TIGGER-FAN]

My wife an I are staying at the Port Orleans French Quater next week and they have King bed rooms. These are some seriously large kings beds. Hope this helps.

 

[wannabeBelle]

Hey there!! Just my two cents worth. I would go onto the Disneyworld website, Price the room you want for the 14 days and then factor in one Premium annual pass for each of the two of you. I wonder if it would come out cheaper that way?? Also if you do consider buying the pass I recommend, DONT book the room online. Call Disney and explain to them that you are becoming a passholder as there are usually discounts for us passholders. Just a for example I went in Oct with my Mom I got a $170.00 a night room for $110 a night with the taxes included at the Port Orleans Riverside. If you'd like to deal with a real travel agent Check in with Kingdom Konsultant. She may be able to help more than I can, as she has more resources than I do!! In either way please let me know how you make out. And of course have a great time!!! Belle

 

[Pioneer Hall]

I would call Disney or a travel agent. Disney does not charge people for underoccupancy in rooms since they are based on Double Occupancy. The only extra charges that get added are when there are MORE than 2 adults in a room.

If you need more info. Please PM me.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Originally posted by DisneyInsider
I would call Disney or a travel agent. Disney does not charge people for underoccupancy in rooms since they are based on Double Occupancy. The only extra charges that get added are when there are MORE than 2 adults in a room.

If you need more info. or price info. please PM me.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

What hes talking about here is the latest scam by the UK travel industry to fleece unsuspecting punters.

Rooms in most hotels are now (allegedly) geared for 3, so 2 is under occupancy, 4 is over, result a little supplement for the tour operator.

Trundlebeds in US hotels are not available if you try to book with UK companys, therefor you have to take two rooms nd all prices are based on two adults sharing cantr have kids in room on own so split adults result surrise surprise another suppliment.


Ive booked my own holiday and saved a lot because of these "helpful" travel agents and there sneaky supplements.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Originally posted by happy snapper
What hes talking about here is the latest scam by the UK travel industry to fleece unsuspecting punters.

Rooms in most hotels are now (allegedly) geared for 3, so 2 is under occupancy, 4 is over, result a little supplement for the tour operator.

Trundlebeds in US hotels are not available if you try to book with UK companys, therefor you have to take two rooms nd all prices are based on two adults sharing cantr have kids in room on own so split adults result surrise surprise another suppliment.


Ive booked my own holiday and saved a lot because of these "helpful" travel agents and there sneaky supplements.

Then I wouldn't book through the UK companies. They are obviously trying to rip you off.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Originally posted by DisneyInsider
Then I wouldn't book through the UK companies. They are obviously trying to rip you off.

Even Disney is not immune it only offers packages with length of stay passes when you try to book with their UK outlet. They even deny that room only exists.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Originally posted by happy snapper
Even Disney is not immune it only offers packages with length of stay passes when you try to book with their UK outlet. They even deny that room only exists.

Well since I do not know UK Disney...do you have to book through them? Can you book through the US outlets and not deal with the package only situations?

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Yes its very easy to go it alone. Booking a fly drive with any of the big companys is the easisest and can be value, then just use the net or deal direct with CRO. Ive had no probs, the only pit fall is big changes in the exchange rate.
However somepeople like the security of having a big company to blame if something goes wrong. If you want discount codes or to use the Disney club you have to do it this way.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

Originally posted by happy snapper
Yes its very easy to go it alone. Booking a fly drive with any of the big companys is the easisest and can be value, then just use the net or deal direct with CRO. Ive had no probs, the only pit fall is big changes in the exchange rate.
However somepeople like the security of having a big company to blame if something goes wrong. If you want discount codes or to use the Disney club you have to do it this way.

OK..sounds better than the UK people that are trying to rip you off with this underoccupancy garbage (and someone should tell them that rooms are made for 4 not 3...overoccupancy is supposed to be 5 people. And this is only the case in some rooms.)

 

[wannabeBelle]

Hey Happy thanks for the UK side of the info!!! Man what a scam!!!!! And here I thought they would want to encourage tourism!! As I said, Id check with a Travel Agent (Disney Specialist would be your best bet I'd think) over on this side of the Pond. Is that an option?? Belle

 

[Maria]

I havenpt finished reading all the thread, so excuse me if this has been explained before.

I worked in a travel agency a while ago, but here, most of the packages to Orlando, and other popular places are quoted in quadruple occupancy because it´s a family destination, and mainly because when you place your ad in the newspaper, the cheap price will call people´s attention more than if you divide the full cost of the room between only two persons and advertise it. People will look at other´s ads and think you are being the expensive company. Simple as that.

The price could sometimes been the same, but divided into more, seems to be less.

Like for instance, for Cancun, they advertise the all inclusive hotels in double occupancy and if I were going by myself, I would have to pay for two anyways, because that is the cost of the room.

I hope I made sense... I´m speaking of what happens where I live. :animwink:

 

[Kingdom Konsultant]

Originally posted by wannabeBelle
Hey there!! Just my two cents worth. I would go onto the Disneyworld website, Price the room you want for the 14 days and then factor in one Premium annual pass for each of the two of you. I wonder if it would come out cheaper that way?? Also if you do consider buying the pass I recommend, DONT book the room online. Call Disney and explain to them that you are becoming a passholder as there are usually discounts for us passholders. Just a for example I went in Oct with my Mom I got a $170.00 a night room for $110 a night with the taxes included at the Port Orleans Riverside. If you'd like to deal with a real travel agent Check in with Kingdom Konsultant. She may be able to help more than I can, as she has more resources than I do!! In either way please let me know how you make out. And of course have a great time!!! Belle

I will be more than happy to help you book your trip. If a special rate becomes available, I always try to save my clients money by booking it for them. Please don't forget that I do give a discount on custom Itineraries for WDWMagic members if you decide that you want one. Our Itineraries cover everything from the park hours to priority seating arrangements to where the best viewing area for the fireworks is. We also give helpful hints and information on the parks and Disney owned properties. Please visit our website to see what some of our clients are saying about our services.

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[wannabeBelle]

Well Gawrsh DJ!!!! Have you ever seen so many people this intent on getting you to go to Disneyworld???? LOL LOL Anyhow, I agree with Maria. Disneyworld has always been pretty clear cut regarding the rooms. The correct answer is that there is a set price for the room. Assume for arguments sake $110 a night. If I were in the room by myself, it would be $110. If I was there with a friend the cost of the room would be $110 but now it is divided among the two of us so it seems cheaper. The Maximum occupancy in any room is either 4 or 5 depending on which hotel you choose. 2 adults are included in the original price, any more adults in the same room are charged a per night fee based on the type of Hotel they choose. If you are at the Moderates I know it is $15.00 in addition to the $110 for the room for a total of $125 per night. I think Happy Snapper is correct and these travel agents over by you are looking for a payback for booking a vacation. If I Am not wrong, and I Am pretty sure I Am not, a travel agent aready gets paid thru the resort(Disneyworld) in this case!!! Actually a great resource as well as a planning guide is Birnbaum's Guide to Disneyworld, which should be available in your local bookstore. It will list all normal rates for every hotel on property, but check in with Mousesavers.com for available specials. It also has a bunch of other info on restaurants, rides, attractions, activities etc. Write back and let us know what happens!! Belle

 

[djmatthews]

Well thanks guys. I really do love wdwmagic.com. The people on these boards are so friendly, helpful and honest. I have gone out and got some travel brochures today, crikey, the book price for WDW holidays seem so expensive. I think booking everything separately would be better, a nice scheduled flight or fly-drive - Virgin or BA. (For a 9 hour flight, charter flights are not nice, I have flown twice to Orlando on charter!!) Then to book a room through WDW CRO. If/When we go it will be off-season, so hopefully better discounts. I have seen the mousesavers website, which seems very helpful has anyone used the codes before? Are the people at the CRO trying to give you the best deal or sell?

Question for KingdomKonsultant. Can you deal with bookings and flights from the UK?

Once again guys.

THANKS

 

[wannabeBelle]

Hey DJ glad to hear you appreciate us!!! As far as the discount codes I have absolutely used them and yes they do work!!
as far as the people at Disney's CRO, it completely depends on the person that you get on the phone. I have gotten some truly amazing people who knew just about everything and were so willing to work with me and try to get me the best value they could for my vacation buck, others are only so-so and dont really go the extra mile. All of them are friendly and nice to deal with but there are some that just know more than others, as it is with customer service reps in any company. I forgot to mention in an earlier posting, you might be able to get a copy of Birnbaum's Guide in your local library but I dont know if they would have the most up to date one. Another website great for pricing information is WWW.WDWIG.com. She has all the latest room rates as well as the different times of year (Value, Regular etc), pictures of all the resorts, restaurant menus & Prices, ticket prices etc.
Once again anything else they I can help with, just write back!! Belle