mickEblu
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I agree on the refresh. Not remove.
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I agree on the refresh. Not remove.
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I could be down with a refreshed Tiki Room if they updated the characters and songs. All of the music in that show is SO old.
Rich T
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Yes, that's the Veldt. And Lost Safari is the explorer/rhino/world's-worst-joke scene.
Bairstow
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I could be down with a refreshed Tiki Room if they updated the characters and songs. All of the music in that show is SO old.
Dubstep refurb of Tiki Room confirmed.
Rich T
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Oh yeah, well I'm old too and LOVE that music!I could be down with a refreshed Tiki Room if they updated the characters and songs. All of the music in that show is SO old.
I find it timeless and delightfully of its time...Jose's accent could maybe use some... I dunno, can that be made slightly less offensive with Auto-Tune?
mickEblu
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I could be down with a refreshed Tiki Room if they updated the characters and songs. All of the music in that show is SO old.
As long as they keep the title song. To be honest it's the only song I know. I've only seen it 3 or 4 times. I appreciate it more for its history.
mickEblu
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Yes, that's the Veldt. And Lost Safari is the explorer/rhino/world's-worst-joke scene.
Gotcha. The list safari and veldt are so close together I considered them to be part of the same scene.
Lol you must be taking about ... "he got the point...in the end."
Rich T
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Let me refresh your memory. LLLLLET'S ALL SINGGGGGG LIKE THE BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRDIEEES SIIIIIIIING...
...and the rest is the Hawaiian War Chant.
mickEblu
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lol that's pretty much exactly what I remember. The title song and when the room goes dark and tikis take "center stage."
Well that and Joses unforgettable (to put it nicely) accent.
mickEblu
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I think both the Enchanted Tiki room and Jungle Cruise could use a refresh. I think you keep the most memorable parts/ tones and redo the rest. Hopefully with higher quality AAs that are just as charming.
This approach gets harder when you think of some of the other classics like POTC and HM. Maybe some attractions are just near perfect and have stood the test of time? Which makes me think is it even possible to WOW people anymore? I'm thinking when people first rode HM they must have been losing their minds in 1969. I can't remember the last time I was WOW'd at any park. Seeing the RSR rock work for the first time comes to mind. Maybe riding Soarin Over California for the first time in 2001. Don't get wrong, there are many fun and amusing attractions. But I'm talking WOW like that Skelton to Jack Sparrow effect at Shanghai...and most of that attraction really.
How could POTC from 50 years ago still be the definitive theme park attraction when it comes to theme/ immersion/ atmosphere and placemaking? I think a lot of it has to do with the over reliance on screens these days because they are cheaper and easy to update obviously. This and just that people in general are harder to impress when we have all sorts technology at our finger tips. Which is even more of a reason why a greater emphasis should be placed on physical sets and AAs because they cannot be recreated at home.
This approach gets harder when you think of some of the other classics like POTC and HM. Maybe some attractions are just near perfect and have stood the test of time? Which makes me think is it even possible to WOW people anymore? I'm thinking when people first rode HM they must have been losing their minds in 1969. I can't remember the last time I was WOW'd at any park. Seeing the RSR rock work for the first time comes to mind. Maybe riding Soarin Over California for the first time in 2001. Don't get wrong, there are many fun and amusing attractions. But I'm talking WOW like that Skelton to Jack Sparrow effect at Shanghai...and most of that attraction really.
How could POTC from 50 years ago still be the definitive theme park attraction when it comes to theme/ immersion/ atmosphere and placemaking? I think a lot of it has to do with the over reliance on screens these days because they are cheaper and easy to update obviously. This and just that people in general are harder to impress when we have all sorts technology at our finger tips. Which is even more of a reason why a greater emphasis should be placed on physical sets and AAs because they cannot be recreated at home.
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Curious Constance
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If POTC were built today, does anyone have any idea how much money something like that would take to build?
mickEblu
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That's a good point too. I can't imagine it would cost more than RSR though.
Curious Constance
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That wasn't a point, it was a question. lol
mickEblu
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But your question happens to bring up a good point. $$$$. I know inflation is a thing but I'd imagine it's more or less relative to whatever it cost to build in the 60's.
Rich T
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DL's Pirates is a lightning-in-a-bottle masterpiece (only slightly hurt by the movie tweaks) because it's the work of Marc Davis, Claude Coates, Blaine Gibson, Alice Davis, George Bruns, Xavier Atencio, Thurl Ravenscroft, Paul Frees, J. Pat O'Malley and many other of the most talented people ever to work at Disney, all working to create the best adventure possible in a limited amount of space...with enough time and money to do (and redo) it right. I think the #1 thing that has made the attraction connect to so many people is Marc Davis and Blaine Gibson's character designs: the pirates are just so memorable and "alive." Add to that the beauty of the Blue Bayou, the thrill of that first drop and the sheer scale of it all. And, like you said, very little reliance on projections (a few clouds here and there). Disney will never again build a ride full of so many large AAs and physical sets, let alone one that lasts nearly twenty minutes.
Aside from the Cars Land rockwork, the last time I was "wowed" by anything at Disney was the first time I saw the Sheriff AA on Radiator Springs Racers. He genuinely and convincingly looked like a full-sized car that had come to life--something I'd never seen before. In fact, I think I literally said "Wow" out loud.
Well, and take it with a grain of salt, according to the internet it cost $8 Million to build PotC back in 1967. That would be about $58.7 Million in today's dollar. I doubt that you would be able to do it for that. So I would imagine if you take that number and multiply it by 4, you'd have the right number.
Easier answer, how much did PotC in Shanghai cost, that would be a better estimate.
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Oh yeah, well I'm old too and LOVE that music!
LOL! Seriously though... All the Frank Sinatra references and cheesy German and Hispanic stereotypes make me cringe every time I go in there. I'm all for Disney nostalgia and honoring DL's past, but too many things about the Tiki show are just downright embarrassing.
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I know all the songs by heart. I feel like I've seen the show at least one hundred times starting with the Tropical Serenade at the Magic Kingdom back in 1975. Back then, when we were kids, we used to call the show Walt Disney's Enchanted Stinky Room and we'd replace the word 'tiki' with 'stinky' when singing the theme song lol.
WEDwaydatamover
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If we are to take the Tiki birds seriously they really need to sober up the show. Maybe do some kind of Tracy Chapman remake, serve hot coffee and infuse real issues relevant to our evolved culture. Everyone gets a participation button on the way out.
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Rich T
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FRANK SINATRA?!? It's Jose's very best Bing Crosby imitation!
The german voice doesn't bug me just because it's Thurl-Human-Subwoofer-Ravenscroft... one of my voice-work heroes.