Ridiculous: Everyone is forced to stand now in the Wishes fastpass area.

[DisneyJayL]

I didn't stick around this last time I went. It does seem like a waste of a fast+ unless you are just walking in to the park.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Actually no one is supposed to sit during Wishes. Everyone is supposed to stand because lights are lowered and there is risk of being trampled. Plus Disney is going to squeeze as many people into the FP+ area that they can. And as Captain America said previously, Wishes is a total waste of Fastpass+.

Tell that to the hundreds that now sit in a main walkway on both sides of the hub.... (with the hub expansion, there's more walking room, so they let operations allow guests to take up the whole walkway out of use and basically use it as an amphitheater).

 

[djkidkaz]

I wouldn't sit anyways with all the cockroaches that crawl around at night!

 

[LauraRose]

Is it really the end of the world? LIGHTEN UP GUYS.

 

[Sage of Time]

I would prefer to sit in the FP area. Isn't that what the fake grass is for?

 

[aladdin2007]

I wouldn't sit anyways with all the cockroaches that crawl around at night!

This!! especially on the tomorrowland bridge walkway. off topic I know but saw another on the front door of mama melrose, thats a nice sight when your going in to eat.

 

[LauraRose]

I wouldn't sit anyways with all the cockroaches that crawl around at night!

Exactly!

 

[Magenta Panther]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but every time I've seen Wishes, most people are sitting, especially those up front near the Castle. Not to mention the people sitting on the curbs on Main Street...

 

[PhotoDave219]

I wouldn't sit anyways with all the cockroaches that crawl around at night!

You should see the Rats.

 

[Tom]

Just seems strange that someone can't sit cross legged which takes up no more space than standing.

Not true at all. Quite the opposite.

And the grass.. it obviously was made to sit on.. or they would have used cement if it was just a standing area.

The artificial turf CAN be sat on, but it's also cushioned, providing a comfortable surface to stand on for a long time.

It's a safety issue to allow people to sit in an area where most others are standing. Fingers are guaranteed to be stepped on. Plus, as others have said, unless everyone is sitting, people are going to have their views blocked by people standing in front of them.

If someone wants to sit, and have a nice view of Wishes, there are many benches that can be claimed early, or a spot on a curb before/after a parade.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Just being neutral on the topic here. I mean the grass hub is available all day for sitting and use. If it's used for one hour for a FP+ and rules are enforced for that one hour. Is it really that bad?

Especially when you SIGN UP to be in that pen for the hour.

 

[wdwmagic]

Ive been guilty of stepping on people that I didn't see. Learned a few new words in Portuguese that way.

I see both sides of the equation here and frankly... if there's no one in there? Fine, sit, spread out. If its an insane night? Nope. It should be a "use your common sense" approach to the situation, rather than a hard and fast policy, IMO.

Any rules on tripods?

I'm sure it is being enforced on a capacity basis. Although these days in the MK, is it ever quiet?

 

[PhotoDave219]

I'm sure it is being enforced on a capacity basis. Although these days in the MK, is it ever quiet?

Excellent point. The old days of 2004-05 really spoiled us

 

[mousehockey37]

I agree it's a waste of a FP. To use one for Illuminations or Wishes is unnecessary. The World Showcase is a very big area, lots of places with good viewing from just about everywhere. Wishes, well, if you don't want to be crammed in like sardines, go watch from one of the resorts or over at the boat dock at the TTC...

Just think, if you actually planned it right, you could see the fireworks from a great spot, with minimal people (dependent on time of year and night) and you could sit or stand and it wouldn't matter!!! But that FP+... gotta use it... Add to Disney's smiling face when they know that you could've used it for a ride instead of fireworks display you can see from most places in, around or outside the park!!!

 

[Mouse_Trap]

What the hell is the grass for.. if they wanted everyone to stand why not just use cement? This policy totally irked me.. seriously.. how the hell am i bothering someone if I'm sitting cross legged taking up minimal square footage.

IIRC, sitting down would mean decreasing the capacity of a given area by around two-fifths due to extra amount of space they occupy.

Thus officially allowing people to sit would limit the amount of FP+'s they are able to offer and thus putting more pressure on other FP+.
It also seems that many people view these as 'premium' FP+ and would be upset to have them more limited.

 

[Biff215]

This is a hell of a thread.

I would prefer to sit in the FP area. Isn't that what the fake grass is for?

I'm not sure that's why they went with fake turf. I'd like to think it was for aesthetic purposes, as opposed to yet more concrete in the hub. Also the reason not to use real grass, as this is an area where walking/standing is allowed, and it wouldn't look nice for very long.

I agree this is likely part safety, part capacity, and I don't see an issue with that. Personally the further away I can get from the hub the better...like the Polynesian.

 

[wdwfan757]

We used FPs at wishes last 24 hour day... and having been at the park since 5:15am we, and everyone else, sat. I don't see the point of a fastpass area if I still have to stand. I can go anywhere and stand, and I'm pretty sure the people behind me would prefer that I sat my 6'3 self down.

 

[matt9112]

Ive been guilty of stepping on people that I didn't see. Learned a few new words in Portuguese that way.

I see both sides of the equation here and frankly... if there's no one in there? Fine, sit, spread out. If its an insane night? Nope. It should be a "use your common sense" approach to the situation, rather than a hard and fast policy, IMO.

Any rules on tripods?

dave this is the way everything in life should be approached.....in a worldo f this though process we wouldn't need cross walk lights.

 

[photomatt]

I wouldn't sit anyways with all the cockroaches that crawl around at night!

This is actually a real issue. If you are sitting somewhere and take the time to look on the ground near walls and dark areas you will see how many roaches there really are. Some of them are massive.

 

[wdwfan757]

Can't they just determine the available ground surface area, figure out the average surface area used by a cross legged fully grown adult or a wheel chair, and then determine how many fastpasses they could distribute to let everyone sit? Cut down on the fastpasses you give out and that should drive more people to tomorrowland terrace? See, everyone wins