Review of The Hulk

WDWspider

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Well, even from a non fan standpoint, Daredevil was not the level of Spider-man or X-men (either one). Perhaps you are purely Action oriented, which is fine. But X-men was a much deeper movie... there was lots of Drama, which was actually lost in the second film a good bit. Not saying that's a bad thing, just that X-men could be enjoyed by a broader audience as opposed to the inside scoop stories found in X2. Does that mean X-men was better than X2. Certainly not, but there was much more movie depth to X-men then say Daredevil.

I have yet to see Hulk because of many sources saying to stay clear. However, I really want to see the Hulk beat the crap out of Metal. Plus knowing that the second movies in series like this tend to get straight into a Major storyline, I know I will want to see sequels to Hulk, so as soon as it hits the Drive-in, I'm there.
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by sandjhooker
You actually watch movies at a drive-in?:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :D

Well, the Drive-in can be fun at times and when you get two or three movies for less than the price of one at the theatre, I think it's a good bargain... especially for questionable movies like the Hulk.

Yes, we still sit Nicholas on Dino's head and watch the projector on a giant slate rock. :lol:
 

WDWFREAK53

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Originally posted by WDWspider
Well, the Drive-in can be fun at times and when you get two or three movies for less than the price of one at the theatre, I think it's a good bargain... especially for questionable movies like the Hulk.

Yes, we still sit Nicholas on Dino's head and watch the projector on a giant slate rock. :lol:

I like it when Mr. Hotdog jumps into Mrs. Bun :lookaroun
 

MickeyMoose15

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Originally posted by WDWspider
That settles it for me, if you can't watch the bad with the good, then I could care less what ratings you give any movie, cause you are not getting an accurate range to judge in the first place. :rolleyes:

A true movie fanatic or critic must be non-bias in the movies they watch and/or judge.

That is your opinion and I could really care less about what you think. Most fan boys can't except that one of their favorite films is bad. I have seen plenty of bad movies. Obviously you didn't see my review of 2 Fast 2 Furious.

Daredevil ain't better than X-Men just because YOU gave it 4 1/2 stars. X-Men was a lot more fun than Daredevil, and Spider-Man is probably the most accurate comic-to-movie adaptation to date. You'd see that if, as Spidey said, you'd be non-biased and studied your sources.

That is been biased. When you compare a film to the original source then that is being biased. These films should be treated as original films and not as based on films.

I have yet to see Hulk because of many sources saying to stay clear. However, I really want to see the Hulk beat the crap out of Metal. Plus knowing that the second movies in series like this tend to get straight into a Major storyline, I know I will want to see sequels to Hulk, so as soon as it hits the Drive-in, I'm there.

If the film drops more then 60% this weekend then Universal may hold off on a sequel longer then expected.

Daredevil ain't better than X-Men just because YOU gave it 4 1/2 stars. X-Men was a lot more fun than Daredevil, and Spider-Man is probably the most accurate comic-to-movie adaptation to date. You'd see that if, as Spidey said, you'd be non-biased and studied your sources.

Daredevil was much more realistic. When somebody died, they really died. In Spider-Man, when somebody was killed, there really wasn't too much realism. Daredevil would have been better if the film had gotten the R-rating it really deserved but the film was good none the less. X-Men totally sucked compared to X2: X-Men United. X2 did receive a higher rating then Daredevil on my list this year but not by much.
 

MKCustodial

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Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
That is your opinion and I could really care less about what you think.

Attitude... You should be careful with your wording, you know. You may not agree with him, but he's still entitled to speak. ;)

Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
If the film drops more then 60% this weekend then Universal may hold off on a sequel longer then expected.

Hey, I didn't see Final Destination or Jeepers Creepers making buttloads of money, and yet the sequels came.

Anyways, I'll let you know what I think of The Hulk on Monday, as I said, I still can't properly comment on it...

Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
Daredevil was much more realistic. When somebody died, they really died.

Where does it say that a movie has to be realistic to be great? In my book, it has to be FUN. And even though DD was fun, Spidey was WAY more fun. And so was Reloaded, but it really dragged more than it should.

Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
That is been biased. When you compare a film to the original source then that is being biased. These films should be treated as original films and not as based on films.
Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
X2 was good but not as balanced or exciting as The Matrix Reloaded was. The movie is ten times better after you see it a second time. Remember that it is only half a film. The conclusion comes with The Matrix Revolutions.

See how you contradicted yourself there? So yeah, maybe my opinion and Spidey's is biased because we're fanboys, but I say so is yours because you're a Matrix groupie. How come Reloaded is "half a movie"? I hardly consider a 160 minute feature "half a movie"...
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
That is your opinion and I could really care less about what you think. Most fan boys can't except that one of their favorite films is bad. I have seen plenty of bad movies. Obviously you didn't see my review of 2 Fast 2 Furious.

Daredevil was much more realistic. When somebody died, they really died. In Spider-Man, when somebody was killed, there really wasn't too much realism. Daredevil would have been better if the film had gotten the R-rating it really deserved but the film was good none the less. X-Men totally sucked compared to X2: X-Men United. X2 did receive a higher rating then Daredevil on my list this year but not by much.

First of all... 2 Fast 2 Furious is still not a bomb movie. I'm simply letting you know that your votes are skewed if you do not take the good with the bad. It's called advice. I do not know anything about the fan boy crack, obviously you make far too many assumptions on who I am and what I know and don't know. A rebuttal of "That is your opinion and I could really care less about what you think" is very narrow minded. Yes, that is my opinion, but I'm sure many more agree than you would like to know.

If you are going to post these un-asked for movie reviews all the time, then maybe you should get more peoples input with polls and allow different perspectives and input. As I've said, based on many others I agree that Hulk is propably not so good, but from your past several reviews I do not find your advice a good measure to rely on... sorry. But don't let it bother you too much, I'm just one person. I have a right to think what I want just as much as you do. The fact that people are willing to tell you these things should be seen as something to at least ponder, not to become so defensive over.
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by MKCustodial
So yeah, maybe my opinion and Spidey's is biased because we're fanboys,

I am not only a spidey lover, but also a disney lover, a theme park lover, and a movie lover.

I can be very impartial and view movies outside the box easily. I actually have a very good knack for viewing things from all perspectives. I do not believe anything I said was fan biased. I was arguing X-men for all non-comic lovers to have a great movie without any knowledge. X2 required lots of inside info to fully understand.
 

Tigggrl

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Ok, Here goes...
I hated Spiderman, and could care less about Matrix...I won't go see Hulk, simply from what I see in previews. I LOVED X-Men, and X-Men 2...I couldnt wait for the sequel...I am not one for alot of action...I am more a fan of the old Bond movies....It is my experience that storylines are so weak anymore. They made better movies on smaller budgets in the past.
I do not need someone to tell me weather I should see a movie. Ebert and Roeper in my opinion are 2 guys who couldnt make it in the business, so they feel they have the right to "Judge" movies....I will judge for myself thank you!
Every person likes different things... When I worked for Blockbuster, I was able to ask several different people, of all walks of life what they thought of a particular movie...sorta like a poll...it gave me a much better perspective of what the public thought!
Now...I wanna see Alex and Emma...and Legally Blonde 2...and Down With Love, and we just watched Catch Me If You Can last night...it was really good...and I watched Serendipity again last week, OH! And we rented Black Culdron, to see if we wanna add it to the collection, and......:p
 

WDWFREAK53

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Originally posted by Tigggrl
Ok, Here goes...
I hated Spiderman, and could care less about Matrix...I won't go see Hulk, simply from what I see in previews. I LOVED X-Men, and X-Men 2...I couldnt wait for the sequel...I am not one for alot of action...I am more a fan of the old Bond movies....It is my experience that storylines are so weak anymore. They made better movies on smaller budgets in the past.
I do not need someone to tell me weather I should see a movie. Ebert and Roeper in my opinion are 2 guys who couldnt make it in the business, so they feel they have the right to "Judge" movies....I will judge for myself thank you!
Every person likes different things... When I worked for Blockbuster, I was able to ask several different people, of all walks of life what they thought of a particular movie...sorta like a poll...it gave me a much better perspective of what the public thought!
Now...I wanna see Alex and Emma...and Legally Blonde 2...and Down With Love, and we just watched Catch Me If You Can last night...it was really good...and I watched Serendipity again last week, OH! And we rented Black Culdron, to see if we wanna add it to the collection, and......:p

YOu have a point about the smaller budget films being better. Smaller budget films relied on the quality of the story and not the fancy shmancy new uses of special effects. But that rule doesn't apply to all movies...because Lord of the Rings was great...as well as Harry Potter...and those were great because of the strong storylines and the perfection of special effects.
 

Tigggrl

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The Harry Potter movies were wonderful! I loved both of those..I still havent sat thru the LOTR Movies, mostly because I read the books several times, and I used to read the Stephen king books, then see the movie, and Needful things was just horrible, and so was Flowers in the Attic...
MOST CG films give me headaches to watch. Pixar is that exception, tho Toy Story 1 did bother my vision in the theater. Shrek was just horrible. I had a headache for like a day and a half after that one!
They have come a long way with CG, but Hulk just dosent look that great to me. I will watch Lou Ferrigno instead:lol:
I LOVED Mighty Joe Young......
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
YOu have a point about the smaller budget films being better. Smaller budget films relied on the quality of the story and not the fancy shmancy new uses of special effects. But that rule doesn't apply to all movies...because Lord of the Rings was great...as well as Harry Potter...and those were great because of the strong storylines and the perfection of special effects.

Well, some movies, like the ones you mentioned must have big budgets in order to tell the tale properly. That is a huge reason why there has not been a great Hulk movie yet. I would say even furthur that the proper effects were still not available to give the Hulk movie proper justification. Often, movies that are made for story first are the best, but in some circumstances... money is necessary to bring visions on screen. At least everyone can agree that Spidey actually looked like he should in the movies, that was a major first. Jurassic Park gave great illusion as well (so money was a big factor). It depends alot on the subject and the story to make a great film. Back to Master of Disguise... what a great talent in Dana Carvey, even the story idea was intriging, but the execution and delivery were horrible. All ingredients must be used to successfully create a quality movie. The amount of each ingredient depends on the film, but too little or too less ruins the entire experience.
 

Tigggrl

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Hey Spidey! Our Niece and Nephew LOVE That silly movie. When they finally bought a DVD player, that was the first movie they bought....:lol:
 

WDWspider

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Originally posted by Tigggrl
Hey Spidey! Our Niece and Nephew LOVE That silly movie. When they finally bought a DVD player, that was the first movie they bought....:lol:

See, that's what I could not get... what audience was this film after. It felt like a kid movie at times... other times like an adult movie... sometimes a spoof... sometimes realistic. It really jumped around alot from one target audience to the next, but never really in a family type manner. All the characters were great but each seemed to fall short of actually doing something funny to me. I so wanted to like that movie. :lol:
 

MickeyMoose15

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Attitude... You should be careful with your wording, you know. You may not agree with him, but he's still entitled to speak.

Look whose talking. I should be entitled to one as well. You two are the ones who started the argument and claim I have no opinion because you claim I am biased.


Hey, I didn't see Final Destination or Jeepers Creepers making buttloads of money, and yet the sequels came.

Do you look at box office numbers? I do. Final Destination made $53,331,147 on a relatively small budget of $23 million. Jeepers Creepers made $37,904,175 also on a relatively low $20 million budget.

The Hulk, on the other hand, cost $137 million before marketing. The film barely pulled in $62 milion in its opening weekend which is pathetic compared to the huge amount of marketing Universal has done and all the buzz surrounding the film. The film drop 62% from Sunday to Monday. It dropped 17% from Monday to Tuesday and dropped 14% from Tuesday to Wednesday.

Let me put this into perspective for ya. Those are Daredevil like numbers. Daredevil opened to $40,310,419 and barely finished with $102,508,407. The Hulk is expected to drop 70% on Friday from last Friday and is expected to drop 60% this weekend from last weekend. The film may end up being slaughtered come Independence Day weekend.

See how you contradicted yourself there? So yeah, maybe my opinion and Spidey's is biased because we're fanboys, but I say so is yours because you're a Matrix groupie. How come Reloaded is "half a movie"? I hardly consider a 160 minute feature "half a movie"...

I am not a Matrix "groupie" but a fan of a quality film. I was not excited about the movie at all until about one month before the release of the film. I did not see the film until May 17th which was two days after the release of the film. If I was a "groupie" then I would have gone Wednesday night at midnight but I didn't.

The Matrix Reloaded is half a film. If you do some stinking research, you will find that the Wachowski Brothers made The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions at the same time and they have described each section as half a film.

Did you even see the film?? Did you not see the "To Be Concluded" at the end?? If so then wake up and pay attention.

First of all... 2 Fast 2 Furious is still not a bomb movie.

It is on what it should have made. The film started off with a $50 million opening weekend and is going to barely finish with $125-130 million.


I am allowed to state my opinions. You are allowed to as well but you don't have to be jerks by claiming I don't have an opinion because I have not seen a film. If I think the movie sucks then it sucks for me. Doesn't matter based on other films.
 

Fievel

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Originally posted by MickeyMoose15
Look whose talking. I should be entitled to one as well. You two are the ones who started the argument and claim I have no opinion because you claim I am biased..

Ok...time to clarify this for you a little bit.

You are being viewed as very condecending towards other members on this board. You refuse to discuss any movie unless somebody shares your opinion. You spew forth useless facts and flame other members' opinions when you are challenged a little bit.

You aren't a movie expert. We never wanted, nor do we want/need a movie expert around here. You talk about us being "fanboys", then you turn around and explain that matrix:reloaded is a great movie because the producers said it's half a film....right after you said each film should be taken on it's own merit.

Stop contracting yourself - you'll only look more foolish.

You'll only watch films you think you might mildly enjoy, and then give ratings as low as one star, when there are other films that are plain horrible, but you refuse to watch them at all. A real film buff would take the good with the bad.

Get off your high horse....because the masses are starting to form around it, and soon you may get knocked off it.
 

mkt

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ok...

EVERYONE, GROW SOME THICKER SKIN AND GET SOME F***ING COMMON SENSE! Not everything is an attack against you.

It's people like these that make these boards intolerable sometimes.

Sometimes... it's better to just suck it up and let a comment slide.... in oher words...

GROW UP KIDDIES!!!


I can't wait for school to start again... I really can't.
 

darthdarrel

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Originally posted by Fievel
Ok...time to clarify this for you a little bit.

You are being viewed as very condecending towards other members on this board. You refuse to discuss any movie unless somebody shares your opinion. You spew forth useless facts and flame other members' opinions when you are challenged a little bit.

You aren't a movie expert. We never wanted, nor do we want/need a movie expert around here. You talk about us being "fanboys", then you turn around and explain that matrix:reloaded is a great movie because the producers said it's half a film....right after you said each film should be taken on it's own merit.

Stop contracting yourself - you'll only look more foolish.

You'll only watch films you think you might mildly enjoy, and then give ratings as low as one star, when there are other films that are plain horrible, but you refuse to watch them at all. A real film buff would take the good with the bad.

Get off your high horse....because the masses are starting to form around it, and soon you may get knocked off it.
I don`t know Brad, Eventhough I think he is being a bit brazen here,I have to agree with his content.:)
 

Fievel

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Originally posted by darthdarrel
I don`t know Brad, Eventhough I think he is being a bit brazen here,I have to agree with his content.:)

Here's my point Darrel.

I dont' care what his content is. He contradicts himself and talks down to other people and refuses to discuss, only preach.

I have no patience for those who have none for others.
 

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