REVIEW - Docking Bay 7 Food and Cargo at Disney's Hollywood Studios

fngoofy

Well-Known Member
Without beating a dead horse/banging the same drum/*insert overused figure of speech here*, IMO the reason is that the area is a gorgeously realized movie set. It’s well built. The theming is top notch. It appears to offer more than it does.

But successful movie sets rely on (1) actors and actresses and (2) cinematography that frames the image. Then the movie itself relies on music and sound effects to add another level of emotional involvement.

SWGE has no overall music and little entertainment. The designers were so busy pretending to be clever with their “real” space, they forgot that theme parks are an extension of the movie industry and rely on the same elements for emotional involvement.

Plus, this will never feel like an absolutely real planet as long as it’s full of tourists in tees and shorts. That’s just reality.

Even when SWGE is completely open, it will have two rides that are completely hidden with no exterior kinetics, several shops, and a couple of small food locations.

Let’s compare that to Frontierland, which has a less polished theme and clunkier, less sophisticated rockwork. FRL abounds in visual kinetics (riverboat, Splash logs, BTMRR) and exploration (TS Island) — plus an AA stage show. Old-school country bluegrass music wafts through the air.

Between SWGE and FrL, which area feels more alive? I’d rather be in FrL.

Well said!
I agree. The only thing the land has going for it is equity performers.

They've figured out a system where the performer walks amongst the guests, interacts, but keeps moving towards a meet and greet area.
We saw when we were there and in videos since we got back, that this is a pattern they all seem to be following.

We saw the Wookie doing this (which is an impressive sight) walking among people, taking some pics, then made his way while doing this over to one of the ships and then messed with it and took more pics. Rey's pattern is to walk with purpose (and her staff.) If she sees a little fan girl she'll walk holding hands, or snap a few pics on the way, always moving towards a meet and greet area or exit.

Basically, they turn the land into their meet and greet spot for the first 20% of their time on stage.
With the realization that they need to make it to a meet and greet or an exit and should keep moving so as not to have a crowd management issue.

BUT
Everything you pointed out is spot on.
I thought it was odd that most of the buildings have bridges and balconies, or platforms but that they are not being used.
I realize they can't have droids roaming around for safety issues, but up on these pathways they could automate droids to travel them.
That would get a little kinetics happening.

I think RofR will fulfill the adventure aspect you mentioned, it just isn't obvious to someone not in the know. RotR will look just like it does now when it opens, it won't add any appeal to the land aesthetically.

The food thing is going to be a problem if/when they open the sit-down as well.
Welcome to the far reaches of the universe... chicken, beef, or ship taco? Miller lite?
They should have gone for generic food names like "Roast" instead of "Beef Pot Roast".
And "Ribs" instead of "Pork Ribs". Ribs and Roasts can come from any number of beasts. The CMs can then clarify.
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
Docking Bay 7 Food and Cargo menu names simplified and devoid of Star Wars inspired names
Is it really that difficult to just keep the names and add descriptions of what each item is?!? This is the dumbest move yet.
 

monothingie

Nakatomi Plaza Christmas Eve 1988. Never Forget.
Premium Member
Actually that’s not true. As many predicted, the temporary unthemed tables have been replaced with in-universe furniture.

The site you reference "Mr Unscrupulous" is the definition of fake news. They moved them outside. Last time I checked they were still there.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Yeah, pretty much Californian food preferences vs, southern and midwestern. I'd choose Californian anyday.
its not that simple
Maybe compared to the MK, but not WDW overall.

But yes, DL’s food options are infinitely better than the MK’s!
The quickserve is better in ansheim

The table service isn’t close. And I’ll remind that the quality and menus at wdw are probably only 50-75% as good in wdw now as it was 20 years ago. And it’s still way better
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
its not that simple

The quickserve is better in ansheim

The table service isn’t close. And I’ll remind that the quality and menus at wdw are probably only 50-75% as good in wdw now as it was 20 years ago. And it’s still way better

Ah, you’re right. I was only thinking about quick service, which is unquestionably better in Anaheim. Table service is definitely better at WDW, although the MK’s options aren’t as good as they used to be. (A fact you pointed out.)
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
Well said!
I agree. The only thing the land has going for it is equity performers.

They've figured out a system where the performer walks amongst the guests, interacts, but keeps moving towards a meet and greet area.
We saw when we were there and in videos since we got back, that this is a pattern they all seem to be following.

We saw the Wookie doing this (which is an impressive sight) walking among people, taking some pics, then made his way while doing this over to one of the ships and then messed with it and took more pics. Rey's pattern is to walk with purpose (and her staff.) If she sees a little fan girl she'll walk holding hands, or snap a few pics on the way, always moving towards a meet and greet area or exit.

Basically, they turn the land into their meet and greet spot for the first 20% of their time on stage.
With the realization that they need to make it to a meet and greet or an exit and should keep moving so as not to have a crowd management issue.

BUT
Everything you pointed out is spot on.
I thought it was odd that most of the buildings have bridges and balconies, or platforms but that they are not being used.
I realize they can't have droids roaming around for safety issues, but up on these pathways they could automate droids to travel them.
That would get a little kinetics happening.

I think RofR will fulfill the adventure aspect you mentioned, it just isn't obvious to someone not in the know. RotR will look just like it does now when it opens, it won't add any appeal to the land aesthetically.

The food thing is going to be a problem if/when they open the sit-down as well.
Welcome to the far reaches of the universe... chicken, beef, or ship taco? Miller lite?
They should have gone for generic food names like "Roast" instead of "Beef Pot Roast".
And "Ribs" instead of "Pork Ribs". Ribs and Roasts can come from any number of beasts. The CMs can then clarify.

That’s how most characters behave in DL; the model was simply copied over to WDW.

But since this thread is about the food, I agree that the name change is a letdown. The menu already had descriptions. This is just dumbing down to the LCD, something Disney didn’t historically do.
 

Fear

Well-Known Member
Do we know if these changes were actually made in the park on the menus, or was this change just in the app descriptions? When we went on Saturday both the LCD menus and the handout menus had the SW names.

Signal boosting this. Is anyone on hand to look? The only things we've seen that confirm this change is the app and online menu. Even the screenshot from The Site were just screenshots from the website. Their header image was of the display boards showing the themed names.
 

J. D.

Well-Known Member
Signal boosting this. Is anyone on hand to look? The only things we've seen that confirm this change is the app and online menu. Even the screenshot from The Site were just screenshots from the website. Their header image was of the display boards showing the themed names.
It has changed in the park as well, unfortunately. Actual food name in big letters with the themed name under it in smaller letters and then the description of the meal. Used to be the other way around.
 

J. D.

Well-Known Member
The site you reference "Mr Unscrupulous" is the definition of fake news. They moved them outside. Last time I checked they were still there.
Not anymore. All the "Home Depot" tables have been replaced with the better themed ones in that picture.
 

J. D.

Well-Known Member
Must have just missed the swap out. They were outside at the beginning of October.
Not sure when exactly they swapped them out. At first glance they look like the same wooden tables, but the main difference is the bench seats instead of regular chairs.
 

wdwmagic

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Not sure when exactly they swapped them out. At first glance they look like the same wooden tables, but the main difference is the bench seats instead of regular chairs.
The new ones are quite different from what was there before. Much more rustic. Still look off-the-shelf, but a bit more custom, less Home Depot ;)

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Prototype82

Well-Known Member
Find the menu name changes very disappointing. I truly enjoyed the fried Tip Yip. I will continue to order Tip Yip on my next visit. Once again the Imagineers created something exotic, exciting and immersive and operations have ruined it.
So help me, I will forever order it and refer to it as Tip Yip until the day I die or until its off the menu. Kimmy at docking bay has said "Off-Worlders say it tastes like chicken."
 

MrPromey

Well-Known Member
The new ones are quite different from what was there before. Much more rustic. Still look off-the-shelf, but a bit more custom, less Home Depot ;)

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They look a little like they could have come from a Fantasyland location but I agree, they work a lot better than what was there before.

I doubt these new ones are something that casual guests will think twice about.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Well, at least the desserts and drinks retain their in-world names.

Although, when I was last there, I went to the milk stand and ordered a Bantha milk. The poor, young CM was flummoxed, but the CM behind her knew it was blue.
 

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