DHS REVIEW - Docking Bay 7 Food and Cargo at Disney's Hollywood Studios

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Ravenclaw78

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Me: "Well, I guess the forum snobs were right after all, WDW guests really are dumber than DL guests. :("
My Wife: "No, DL just has hardly any international tourists, whereas a huge percentage of WDW guests are from outside the US and many of them don't speak English as their first language. Quick Service menus need to be readable at a glance, and the Batuuan names were probably confusing foreign travelers enough that it caused problems."
Me: "Yeah, that does make sense. Still sucks, though."
 
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Awakening

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Ravenclaw78 said:
Me: "Well, I guess the forum snobs were right after all, WDW guests really are dumber than DL guests. :("
My Wife: "No, DL just has hardly any international tourists, whereas a huge percentage of WDW guests are from outside the US and many of them don't speak English as their first language. Quick Service menus need to be readable at a glance, and the Batuuan names were probably confusing foreign travelers enough that it caused problems."
Me: "Yeah, that does make sense. Still sucks, though."
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They’ve been selling food in Epcot for years with names that don’t explicitly state what they are and everyone ordered just fine; WDW tourists are actually just dumb sometimes.
 
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BigThunderMatt

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Ravenclaw78 said:
Me: "Well, I guess the forum snobs were right after all, WDW guests really are dumber than DL guests. :("
My Wife: "No, DL just has hardly any international tourists, whereas a huge percentage of WDW guests are from outside the US and many of them don't speak English as their first language. Quick Service menus need to be readable at a glance, and the Batuuan names were probably confusing foreign travelers enough that it caused problems."
Me: "Yeah, that does make sense. Still sucks, though."
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Yeah, no, can confirm the the vast majority of idiotic guests are American. Language barriers are a thing, sure, but there's a reason all the menus have pictures. You don't need to be able to read English to figure out what it is you're ordering.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I kind of get it...but that doesn't mean I like it...lol Can you imagine having to explain over and over and over that Yip Yip is chicken? ..not only annoying it would really slow down the process... Hopefully when they add the table service restaurant, the food will have unique names again with a description underneath...at a Table Service there is time to take in the menu...
 
mdcpr

mdcpr

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Bocabear said:
I kind of get it...but that doesn't mean I like it...lol Can you imagine having to explain over and over and over that Yip Yip is chicken? ..not only annoying it would really slow down the process... Hopefully when they add the table service restaurant, the food will have unique names again with a description underneath...at a Table Service there is time to take in the menu...
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No one has to explain the Grey Stuff. :)
 

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The_Jobu

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Ravenclaw78 said:
Me: "Well, I guess the forum snobs were right after all, WDW guests really are dumber than DL guests. :("
My Wife: "No, DL just has hardly any international tourists, whereas a huge percentage of WDW guests are from outside the US and many of them don't speak English as their first language. Quick Service menus need to be readable at a glance, and the Batuuan names were probably confusing foreign travelers enough that it caused problems."
Me: "Yeah, that does make sense. Still sucks, though."
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Don't worry, WDW still leads the world in scooter usage.
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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ChrisFL said:
I'll say two things.

1. ) I don't care

2.) It's interesting that this got changed so quickly...it makes me wonder what other changes we might see, if this is the first of several or not.

In the grand scheme of issues, this is a very minor one to me.
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There are two kinds of people in this world:

1.) People like this who probably sleep better at night. ^^^

2.) People like me who get REALLY bothered by immersion being ruined. And I'm not ashamed of it.

When I walk past that tunnel into Batuu, I grab a cold beer, follow Vi around and interact with stormtroopers, convince my server at Docking Bay not take my droid back to Pico for droid battles(seriously, Kimmy is fantastically in character on the job), and leave all reality at the door. Everything should be a part of the story. Every component, bite of food, and interaction should respect that. It's what made this land and Pandora special.
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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I just think there's always compromises that have to be made when it comes to guests. You can make the most perfectly immersive land in the history of mankind but that only works so far as long as it serves a vast majority of guests with a good experience as well
 
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BigThunderMatt

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ChrisFL said:
I just think there's always compromises that have to be made when it comes to guests. You can make the most perfectly immersive land in the history of mankind but that only works so far as long as it serves a vast majority of guests with a good experience as well
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If you don't like heavily themed immersive experiences, then go to your local Six Flags or Cedar Fair park and get your lowest common denominator kicks from them instead of dumbing down the experience for the rest of us who crave the immersiveness.
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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Doomed from the start if you ask me.
I'm all for an immersive experience - and wish Disney had delivered more of what they promised.
But a menu that serves thousands (from around the world no less) composed of fictitious critter names?
That's a tough one.
The amount of translation and corrections, that must have been needed had to be endless.
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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BigThunderMatt said:
If you don't like heavily themed immersive experiences, then go to your local Six Flags or Cedar Fair park and get your lowest common denominator kicks from them instead of dumbing down the experience for the rest of us who crave the immersiveness.
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Thanks for completely missing the point I was making
 
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BigThunderMatt

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ChrisFL said:
Thanks for completely missing the point I was making
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I wasn't stating it to you specifically, but more in a general sense. Disney tries too hard to cater to too many groups of people at once. If you go to a theme park and you lack the capacity to appreciate the nuance, hard work, dedication and overall immersiveness of it, you're wasting your money and should probably go elsewhere. But instead, Disney caters to these rubes and the rest of us who do enjoy it for what it is have a lesser experience because of it. We pay to get that experience there because it's not something you can get at other places. Why should I have to have a less immersive experience because John Yahoo from podunk Kansas doesn't have enough critical thinking skills to understand that it's pretend?
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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BigThunderMatt said:
I wasn't stating it to you specifically, but more in a general sense. Disney tries too hard to cater to too many groups of people at once. If you go to a theme park and you lack the capacity to appreciate the nuance, hard work, dedication and overall immersiveness of it, you're wasting your money and should probably go elsewhere. But instead, Disney caters to these rubes and the rest of us who do enjoy it for what it is have a lesser experience because of it. We pay to get that experience there because it's not something you can get at other places. Why should I have to have a less immersive experience because John Yahoo from podunk Kansas doesn't have enough critical thinking skills to understand that it's pretend?
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Point taken, but I think this is more about the larger issues with SW:GE and the food names as I said are just one small part of a larger issue with the land (and honestly probably not really an issue in the truest sense), however I don't really want to rehash that in this thread.

The short version: Being immersed in something that's only about 20% related to the movies is an issue IMO
 
Rogue1138

Rogue1138

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BigThunderMatt said:
This is also why Wizarding World is so well-designed IMO. There may not necessarily be kinetic energy from the rides, but the sights and sounds and the lack of visual sight-lines to other areas (particularly in Diagon Alley) makes the area feel so much more alive. From a merchandising/dining standpoint I also feel like Harry Potter is a gold mine in the amount of items they could conceivably pull from the books and films that people would want to buy or eat. Star Wars just doesn't have that. Outside of EU obsessed hyperfans, what iconic items besides a lightsaber and blue milk can you really name from Star Wars that would be easily marketable?
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While I don't disagree, I also don't think it's a fair comparison. Potter was a Young Adult book series that turned into a Young Adult film series decades after Star Wars revolutionized movie tie-in marketing. It's a gold mine because it was absolutely mined (almost from conception) to be marketed in every possible way and is set in a real world setting. Harry Potter eats magic chocolate frog is much easier to produce and for people to stomach than some weird frog thing we saw Jabba the Hutt eating.

Personally, am completely indifferent to the Potterverse. Saw the movies, been to the theme park (pre-Diagon... darn babies get in the way of going back) and I've never felt "Oh wow! Potter is awesome!" vibes. It felt more like a big budget ren faire type vibe to me. What they did successfully is made an entertaining ride and butterbeer. Mileage can vary based on history. Never had any desire to buy Potter merch but I have a mortgage payment worth of stuff I want from SW:GE because that's what I grew up with.
 

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