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Dutch Inn '76

Dutch Inn '76

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montyz81 said:
Yet the current boss keeps creating more ways to siphon money from guests...

* I use these two rides as examples because 1: Tron has already been engineered so the cost to think it up doesn't exist. 2: GoTG is lacking in original imagination that pushes the cost of a ride. Think Pirates of the Caribbean as an example or all the rides at 1982 Epcot Center. All those rides were complete ground-up Imagineering and build-out. Plus, GoTG's ride system mostly existed. It was just a matter of taking Haunted Mansion Omni-movers and putting them on an SDMT ride.
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I too, am weary of price increases, and/or being asked to pay for something that used to be free (Fastpass), but these two examples of "cheap builds" are too much. I have no problem with them introducing Tron to WDW, as 99% of us are never going to an Asian Disney Park. I'm looking forward to riding TRON. With GOTG in EPCOT, I'd rather the IP be left out, but I acknowledge that they're having a hard time making "Future World" work, IP or no IP. They've been struggling with it for ~30 years. Let's try this and see if it works!
 
montyz81

montyz81

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Dutch Inn '76 said:
I too, am weary of price increases, and/or being asked to pay for something that used to be free (Fastpass), but these two examples of "cheap builds" are too much. I have no problem with them introducing Tron to WDW, as 99% of us are never going to an Asian Disney Park. I'm looking forward to riding TRON. With GOTG in EPCOT, I'd rather the IP be left out, but I acknowledge that they're having a hard time making "Future World" work, IP or no IP. They've been struggling with it for ~30 years. Let's try this and see if it works!
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The problem with Future World was that the technology/ride subject ā€œsell buy dateā€ was much quicker than any other park. They needed to invest in the park in much shorter cycles to help the ride subject stay relevant. The sponsors and Disney where unwilling to do that. If integrating some IP along with the edutainment that was Future World, the ā€œsell by dateā€ could have been extended. Disney let it all rot instead and it all became old. To that end, the park still did 10 - 12m guests per year.
 
Dutch Inn '76

Dutch Inn '76

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montyz81 said:
The problem with Future World was that the technology/ride subject ā€œsell buy dateā€ was much quicker than any other park. They needed to invest in the park in much shorter cycles to help the ride subject stay relevant. The sponsors and Disney where unwilling to do that. If integrating some IP along with the edutainment that was Future World, the ā€œsell by dateā€ could have been extended. Disney let it all rot instead and it all became old. To that end, the park still did 10 - 12m guests per year.
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Yeah, sort of. I agree that they let it "rot;" but then again, what would they have inserted in its place? It's no different than "Tomorrowland" really. It's hard to predict tomorrow, keep it fresh, and make a buck. I understand why they've given up, frankly.
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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wdwmagic said:

Reopening dates announced for Flying Fish Cafe, Jiko and Turf Club at Walt Disney World​

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Reopening dates announced for Flying Fish, Jiko and Turf Club at Walt Disney World

More popular table service restaurants are reopening in the next month at Walt Disney World.
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Great news for the Disney Comeback Index!

Cape May Cafe and Ale Compass also going back to buffets (breakfast for Ale & Compass), although crab legs still not included at CMC. Hope they add crab legs, that's the draw for my family.
 
Patcheslee

Patcheslee

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mattpeto said:
Great news for the Disney Comeback Index!

Cape May Cafe and Ale Compass also going back to buffets (breakfast for Ale & Compass), although crab legs still not included at CMC. Hope they add crab legs, that's the draw for my family.
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DH insists on waiting for 1900 Park Fare dinner, we all love the sisters antics. The family style menus are a personal negative with picky eater, so buffets coming back is great.
 
trentino

trentino

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@mattpeto Would you consider adding a Penalty for the fact that the Blue Flag launch is *still* not running between Wildnerness Lodge, Contemporary and Fort Wilderness? We've loved the ability to take boat transportation between Bay Lake / SSL resorts since our first visit in 1984. Back then, the boat from FW went to the Poly as Fort Wilderness did not have it's own pool -- campers were encouraged to swim in the Poly pools. The Poly was cut from this route sometime after the Wilderness Lodge opened in the 1994. The signage and queues for the Blue Flag launch still remain so there is hope it will return. One thought some have expressed is that they may be waiting for the Hoop Dee Doo to return.
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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trentino said:
@mattpeto Would you consider adding a Penalty for the fact that the Blue Flag launch is *still* not running between Wildnerness Lodge, Contemporary and Fort Wilderness? We've loved the ability to take boat transportation between Bay Lake / SSL resorts since our first visit in 1984. Back then, the boat from FW went to the Poly as Fort Wilderness did not have it's own pool -- campers were encouraged to swim in the Poly pools. The Poly was cut from this route sometime after the Wilderness Lodge opened in the 1994. The signage and queues for the Blue Flag launch still remain so there is hope it will return. One thought some have expressed is that they may be waiting for the Hoop Dee Doo to return.
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Absolutely! That's a great call, thanks for that thought.

I have a penalty for lack of Disney Springs buses directly from the parks after 4 pm like they were running pre-pandemic, it would likely be something equivalent.
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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mattpeto said:
Absolutely! That's a great call, thanks for that thought.

I have a penalty for lack of Disney Springs buses directly from the parks after 4 pm like they were running pre-pandemic, it would likely be something equivalent.
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I counted it as a 10th penalty of friendship/ferry boats. With the blue flag penalty, it dipped under 79% again (78.98%), but just added Olaf Celebrity Spotlight and it's back over 79%.

79.02%

Hopefully we can remove the penalty soon (and when HDDR opens!).
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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Flying Fish is a big restaurant returning!

Disney Comeback Index is at 79.33%. We are inching closer to the next milestone.

Here is what I have on the docket!

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