G00fyDad
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Staffing.
Don't the CM's driving the trams have to be covered under different insurance or something and be certified? I read that somewhere but that could have been the ramblings of a senile old man I found.
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Staffing.
Don't the CM's driving the trams have to be covered under different insurance or something and be certified? I read that somewhere but that could have been the ramblings of a senile old man I found.
Casper Gutman
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I wish people would stop saying “staffing.” It’s more cumbersome but more honest to say “Disney won’t pay the salaries the free market demands.”
And the trams should have been one of the very first things that returned. It’s inexcusable.
mattpeto
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Disagree..
Things are trickling back every day. Meanwhile they have a money maker (Minnie Vans) that they haven't got up yet? Any ideas why? Maybe because labor is really a bigger issue.
Disney Analyst
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Did I miss the news that the bird show is back at AK without Up?
mattpeto
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The IP has been missing from the show since it reopened. They updated the signage today.
EDIT: Looks like it opened in late July 2020.
Casper Gutman
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Labor is an issue because WDW fired lots of people and now won’t pay what is necessary to rehire them. Those are choices WDW made.
It’s amazing how people who readily accept that the free market can drive down wages simply will not allow themselves to understand that it can also drive them up.
The Trams were supposed to be back by Friday. They were training CMs 3 weeks ago.
James Alucobond
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No one's excusing it. It's just the reality of the situation they're now in.
G00fyDad
Well-Known Member
If it is staffing then it is staffing regardless of why it is staffing. That is the end result of why the trams are not working. And yes, I agree that the trams should have been one of the first things up and running.
Casper Gutman
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Phrasing it as “the reality of the situation they’re now in” is excusing it because it presents it as an inevitability against which Disney is powerless rather then the result of a series of past and ongoing choices by Disney.
Everything down due to “staffing” is actually down because “WDW won’t pay even as they charge guests insane amounts for a diminished product.”
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
There is an element of powerlessness now since they don't have a time machine and they're having to feel out a very much changed labor market. No one said they don't have agency and that the situation isn't of their own making, just that the resolution isn't simple. Pay more, sure, but how much? They're obviously probing on that point with their various bonus offers and whatnot.
Disney Analyst
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Ahh got it, that's why it was making the rounds today! I was very confused haha.
mattpeto
Well-Known Member
No, labor is an issue everywhere. They are offering bonuses to housekeeping, cooks, etc.
Sorry this makes you outraged: Grab an Uber or walk. Or use Disney transportation.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
How much would you have to pay for a WDW ticket before you thought it was reasonable to expect a service Disney and many other amusement parks have been offering for decades?
mikejs78
Premium Member
But this isn't strictly a Disney problem. Labor is a problem everywhere. It's not just that they won't pay the wages necessary (that's a rather simplistic explanation), but did it occur to you that the labor pool is smaller? Don't forget, Disney hired a great number of international cast members who are not available right now. That's a pretty big chunk of additional labor that they now have to source from Floriday.
Casper Gutman
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Labor - and increased wages - are a huge problem for small and mid-size companies that operate on thin margins - but that ain’t WDW. And when the labor pool is smaller, for whatever reason, you raise wages - that’s how it works. Everyone gets the reverse - WDW doesn’t have to pay good wages because everyone wants to work for Disney! Apparently it baffles folks that the free market swings two ways.
James Alucobond
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It’s not baffling anyone. Disney clearly understands the equation in principle with the incentives they’re offering. They just don’t know the appropriate values for each of the variables to attract people back in the quantities they need. And while most would agree that service workers are generally underpaid, it’s irresponsible to shareholders to just haphazardly throw money at the situation resulting in folks being significantly overpaid, especially if they’re performing roles equal to others being paid less who will then become disgruntled. It’s probably why they’re pushing the bonus angle since co-workers are less likely to begrudge you a one-time award than a significantly higher paycheck every month.
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