Restaurant capacity and live entertainment restrictions are currently limiting Walt Disney World theme park attendance according to Bob Chapek

[Chomama]

Exactly my point. Disney also allowed their comfortable operational attraction capacity to be exceeded long before 2019.

to sell after hours.

I believe I told some people not to fall for that and identify the root problem.

hearing is a lost art.

Are paid after hours happening frequently right now? Even the holiday parties are lame now. And food and wine used to have way more going on

 

[Kamikaze]

They need a longer term, more stable workforce.

disruptions will hurt profits in the short and longterm.

if there’s one good thing to come out of this whole debacle…it’s that.

the reliance on minimum wage, college program and IP was always a potential problem.

If they just suck it up and stay “slightly” above the going rate in town…the returns in revenue would be there. Much better/happier staff. Labor 101

Just gotta throw that in even though there is zero evidence that 'IP' has anything to do with any issues perceived or otherwise at Disney Parks, huh? And IP definitely has nothing to do with any staff shortages or capacity limitations.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just gotta throw that in even though there is zero evidence that 'IP' has anything to do with any issues perceived or otherwise at Disney Parks, huh? And IP definitely has nothing to do with any staff shortages or capacity limitations.

International program

…want to take another shot at this?

 

[Kamikaze]

Exactly my point. Disney also allowed their comfortable operational attraction capacity to be exceeded long before 2019.

to sell after hours.

I believe I told some people not to fall for that and identify the root problem.

hearing is a lost art.

Ah, but the fix to limiting attendance in the short term is to continue to increase pricing, but you'd complain about that too, now wouldn't you?

A massive expansion to available attractions is the long term fix, sure, but CapEx doesn't happen all at once. And in at least the case of DLR - the plans are there to do just that.

Edit: changed capacity to attendance to make more clear

 

[Chomama]

International program

…want to take another shot at this?

Ah yes. Without it world showcase is a pass thru. It’s honestly boring was the favorite thing for 3 or our 4 kids for years. Over MK. Not anymore. Are the green army men back? There’s just nothing to see!!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Are paid after hours happening frequently right now? Even the holiday parties are lame now. And food and wine used to have way more going on

Not currently…but that will change

they also a just came off 80 “holiday parties”


so why would there be no after hours now?

offically: staffing issues
Real: to sell lighting lane.

theory

 

[Kamikaze]

International program

…want to take another shot at this?

Got me.

 

[Chomama]

Ah, but the fix to limiting capacity in the short term is to continue to increase pricing, but you'd complain about that too, now wouldn't you?

A massive expansion to available attractions is the long term fix, sure, but CapEx doesn't happen all at once. And in at least the case of DLR - the plans are there to do just that.

They need to fill restaurants and bring back all entertainment. It would make a big difference to wait times. Everyone is Epcot is in line for soarin and rat. They used to be dispersed

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ah, but the fix to limiting capacity in the short term is to continue to increase pricing, but you'd complain about that too, now wouldn't you?

A massive expansion to available attractions is the long term fix, sure, but CapEx doesn't happen all at once. And in at least the case of DLR - the plans are there to do just that.

Complain? About Disney?

hell no. It’s the customers fault. Just like accepting bad movies. Defend yourselves…don’t expect Wall Street to guard your back. Won’t happen.

just to be clear: you fell for that “they want to reduce attendance” crap too?

 

[Kamikaze]

Ah yes. Without it world showcase is a pass thru. It’s honestly boring was the favorite thing for 3 or our 4 kids for years. Over MK. Not anymore. Are the green army men back? There’s just nothing to see!!

Huh? Just because the CMs aren't from the country they are staffed in it makes the entire half of the park 'pass thru'? Thats another horribly bad Disney take for sure.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Got me.

It happens in the hurricane of revolving complaints. No big deal

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They need to fill restaurants and bring back all entertainment. It would make a big difference to wait times. Everyone is Epcot is in line for soarin and rat. They used to be dispersed

Correct…crowd flow is planned and managed…it’s not like they’re new at this.

why aren’t they concerned? One guess: lightning lane.

 

[Kamikaze]

They need to fill restaurants and bring back all entertainment. It would make a big difference to wait times. Everyone is Epcot is in line for soarin and rat. They used to be dispersed

A lot of the better table service they wouldn't fill more than 60ish% of the tables even before COVID. Who the heck knows why.

 

[Chomama]

Huh? Just because the CMs aren't from the country they are staffed in it makes the entire half of the park 'pass thru'? Thats another horribly bad Disney take for sure.

There is also very little entertainment. Interacting with the culture is what made it interesting. A mini visit to a world you can’t easily visit otherwise. American college kids tossing you a mediocre crepe in an ugly flag shirt isn’t that fun. Sorry. And the performers are gone for the most part, which started before the pandemic. Now it’s just food stalls. Pass thru yes.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There’s simply no excuse that the MK doesn’t have more attractions.

400 million for guardians at Epcot? Put that to a proper MK expansion! That’s what is needed ASAP.

 

[Kamikaze]

Complain? About Disney?

hell no. It’s the customers fault. Just like accepting bad movies. Defend yourselves…don’t expect Wall Street to guard your back. Won’t happen.

just to be clear: you fell for that “they want to reduce attendance” crap too?

They want to keep attendance at a more manageable level. One that they control and know what it will be. Helps them staff.

They also want to keep pricing at levels where it keeps out a certain segment of the population. That much is clear even though it would never be said.

 

[trainplane3]

Also there’s just less to do. Just rides. We used to stop to watch the performers by the carousel and try to pull the sword, British revolution, chinese acrobats, jammitors in future world (not in American gardens), Nemo, parades day and night, more restaurants to try, diverse merch to explore, push trash can, ho down, pirate training, Jedi training, Star Wars character show, storm trooper March, citizens of Hollywood, France jugglers, need i go on????? They don’t have enough going on the entertain the masses all day. Ride capacity isn’t enough and it’s making everything crowded. Less table service means longer waits for quick service. It’s boring now

When I was in the parks in May, World Showcase was a joke. Without entertainment cast it just sucks. September brought some back and December brought more but it still isn't enough. Without international cast, it's just a overly themed shopping mall without the charm they add to it (but I get limits on bringing them back...for now).

Having more entertainment cast would certainly make me spend more money because I'd want to hang around longer in a park.

Also, Park Pass sucks. Explaining to a friend that should be heading down next month how park hopping now works bummed them out. They felt a park hopper isn't worth it anymore especially with the operating hours too.

 

[Kamikaze]

There is also very little entertainment. Interacting with the culture is what made it interesting. A mini visit to a world you can’t easily visit otherwise. American college kids tossing you a mediocre crepe in an ugly flag shirt isn’t that fun. Sorry. And the performers are gone for the most part, which started before the pandemic. Now it’s just food stalls. Pass thru yes.

You know there are exhibits and attractions in those pavilions, right? Not everything has to be food or interactive with a CM.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They want to keep attendance at a more manageable level. One that they control and know what it will be. Helps them staff.

They also want to keep pricing at levels where it keeps out a certain segment of the population. That much is clear even though it would never be said.

No…they’re recentering pricing upwards and then will try to backfill the attendance to increase yield. Not rocket science.

Wall Street also wants less staffing at minimum rate. Wall Street is a great dystopian planet, isn’t it?

 

[Kamikaze]

There’s simply no excuse that the MK doesn’t have more attractions.

400 million for guardians at Epcot? Put that to a proper MK expansion! That’s what is needed ASAP.

That no one can disagree with, MK at 50 isn't where it should be. But $400m would be a drop in the bucket for doing that correctly.