Sirwalterraleigh
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Woah woah
that’s assuming no extenuating circumstances
we are NOT in a vacuum…never been in less of one
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Restaurant capacity and live entertainment restrictions are currently limiting Walt Disney World theme park attendance according to Bob Chapek
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that’s assuming no extenuating circumstances
we are NOT in a vacuum…never been in less of one
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think most are in some stage of low occ
Also Merchandise was not even fully operational. A number of stores at DHS are still closed so the profits could have been more. Many have accepted to pay higher prices and continue to do so. The credit card debt in our country must be enormous.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Yes…but those stores are completely redundant
But perhaps the nearby liquor stores near CP housing will be glad for CP business!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m wondering how limited park capacity truly is right now. A few weeks back, there wasn’t a single day the rest of the year that was even yellow on the Park Reservations site, no matter which option you chose. Either park capacity has been increased or enough people aren’t booking park reservations to “sell out” even one park.
peter11435
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This is accurate
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I’m guessing it’s both:
“restrictions” are that in name only…and their bookings are down due to lingering covid effect and price increases
FTFY.
Didn't you listen to Bob and Christine? Disney has all the pricing power. Consumers love Disney's prices and are clamoring to pay more, particularly now that they don't have to interact with the human being! (Ok, one part of that may be made up. I'll let the readers decide which part. Or is any of it made up? Hmmm...)
Either way, I agree, the "restrictions" are, for all intents and purposes, just words used now. I may be totally wrong, and am happy to stand corrected if I am.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Oh I heard it…FTFY.
Didn't you listen to Bob and Christine? Disney has all the pricing power. Consumers love Disney's prices and are clamoring to pay more, particularly now that they don't have to interact with the human being! (Ok, one part of that may be made up. I'll let the readers decide which part. Or is any of it made up? Hmmm...)
Either way, I agree, the "restrictions" are, for all intents and purposes, just words used now. I may be totally wrong, and am happy to stand corrected if I am.
but I have this annoying habit of hearing the unsaid and being proven right about it later…
I have witnesses.
The best questions are the ones they aren't 100% prepared for, because then you get raw thoughts without a filter, at least with $lappie and the CFO. And those moments are when you hear their true intentions.
disneyflush
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All of their opinions and statements are just noise at this point. They'll rip out their customers' hearts if they can charge them for it. The compensation system rewards profits. Shortsighted, longsighted, it doesn't matter. People will not stop selling out the park attendance. If everyone had to take 10 lashes on top of their ticket price it wouldn't stop them. Invisible magic is THE drug, the all-powerful, all-everything that drags these people out of bed in the morning and through another hellish day outside of the theme parks. Raising ticket prices makes them giggle in anticipation that maybe less OTHER people will be there now. The price hikes just give them another chance to be special. Such a big fan, such a big DISNEY person, you guys just wouldn't understand, of course I'll pay it, its not even really a choice with me lol. You know people call me for advice on their trips right? Whats another thousand bucks really, Adele tickets are $1,000 each and sold out in a few minutes for months of shows. Its like, everything is sooo expensive now. YOLO!
They have an army of people applying for yet another credit card to finance another escape from their reality. The price of their happiness can't be measured with dollars or debts you simpletons. They DESERVE an annual trip. They plan better than anyone else and have you even seen their trip reports? Amazing! They feel that cold sweat when opening those credit card bills each month but fight it off with another perfect Facebook vacation photo blast of dopamine. Its a maniacal game of financial musical chairs at this point. They pay the going rate year after year while eyeing their competition inside the parks waiting to see who blinks first and decides its not financially feasible to keep up this lifestyle. If they can just keep making it work, scratching and saving for another 7 nights respite from kids' homework, PTA, their minivan needing a major tune-up, refrigerator not looking so great, spouse that goes on and onnn about how they should try a new place that is a bit cheaper. Like that would even be magical. Disney will soon push it too far, make it too expensive. Attendance will drop to a comfortable level again and our heroes will smile as the execs scream at each other for being so foolish for so long. Prices will go back to sensible you'll see. These heroes don't care about the food quality, or the redundant merchandise everywhere, or employee morale, or the costs of the resorts. They will push through the financial pain imposed by the suits in the ivory towers as a show of strength and devotion. My Disney fandom is so much more powerful than their rising prices.
They have an army of people applying for yet another credit card to finance another escape from their reality. The price of their happiness can't be measured with dollars or debts you simpletons. They DESERVE an annual trip. They plan better than anyone else and have you even seen their trip reports? Amazing! They feel that cold sweat when opening those credit card bills each month but fight it off with another perfect Facebook vacation photo blast of dopamine. Its a maniacal game of financial musical chairs at this point. They pay the going rate year after year while eyeing their competition inside the parks waiting to see who blinks first and decides its not financially feasible to keep up this lifestyle. If they can just keep making it work, scratching and saving for another 7 nights respite from kids' homework, PTA, their minivan needing a major tune-up, refrigerator not looking so great, spouse that goes on and onnn about how they should try a new place that is a bit cheaper. Like that would even be magical. Disney will soon push it too far, make it too expensive. Attendance will drop to a comfortable level again and our heroes will smile as the execs scream at each other for being so foolish for so long. Prices will go back to sensible you'll see. These heroes don't care about the food quality, or the redundant merchandise everywhere, or employee morale, or the costs of the resorts. They will push through the financial pain imposed by the suits in the ivory towers as a show of strength and devotion. My Disney fandom is so much more powerful than their rising prices.
Goofnut1980
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My point is the ship can only hold so many people, unlike the park that they can keep cramming them in. That's all.
Goofnut1980
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We were there December 3-11 and it was stupid! I agree with you he is nuts and you can't tell me they aren't allowing 80,000 people in the park.
WDW Pro
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I’m not @lentesta, but his Touring Plans folks have documented the disparity between posted times and actual wait times. Interestingly, Defunctland’s magnum opus on FastPass noted that this difference seemed to grow greatly way back when Disney started allowing guests to view wait times on their phones.
What’s in question is the reason times are different. Some will say it’s “under promise/over deliver” so guests will be happier when the wait is shorter. Some say it’s to gently direct guests to/from certain attractions. Others say it to guide people to purchase Genie+. I would guess the truth is a combination of many factors.
Edit: here are some of TP’s articles on posted vs. actual wait times:
Posted vs Actual Wait Times – Worst Offenders! | TouringPlans.com Blog
TouringPlans is all about understanding what's actually going on with lines for rides. But most guests base their decisitouringplans.com
The Wait Time Secret That Disney Won’t Tell You | TouringPlans.com Blog
We've gotten many variations of a single question (or complaint) recently, and they all go something like this: "I used
Are Wait Times More or Less Accurate For Individual Lightning Lane Attractions? | TouringPlans.com Blog
Disney World has a long history of inflating posted wait times. We've written articles and recorded videos talking about
Thank you for this. I'll reach out to Lentesta.
I don't have hard data to back up this assumption, but lines look longer now because Genie+ uptake is nowhere near FP+ uptake, while attendance has increased significantly since the debut of FP+. There is no queue built on property designed to handle the large number of standby guests. A 2 hour line in 2019 and a 2 hour line in 2021 do not have nearly equivalent amounts of people in them.
flynnibus
Premium Member
"and I think guaranteeing our guests that they have a great experience no matter when they come"
I LOL'd on that one. I like how Bob spun his inability to staff and supply the place into a 'restrictions holding us back' message. I'm shocked he didn't just say "once we can get staffed up we'll be able to make a lot more money and get more customers in the door'. I mean, that's what he means...
I LOL'd on that one. I like how Bob spun his inability to staff and supply the place into a 'restrictions holding us back' message. I'm shocked he didn't just say "once we can get staffed up we'll be able to make a lot more money and get more customers in the door'. I mean, that's what he means...