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Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?

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Buried20KLeague

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I believe this site was mentioned in the same breath as unsuitable soil conditions under the other garden wing. I may have read too much into it and I agree with the issues you mention above, but would have spectacular views of the park (maybe not in reverse though).
IMO (which isn't worth a hoot, obviously), I wouldn't see any reason for them to stick one stray Contemp building over there. If they really wanted to do something like that with a hotel and charge out the wazoo, they could easily make it its own resort. Think like the Mira Costa at Tokyo Disneyland. A western/southern resort over by BTMRR and Splash, that backed right up to the park. They could charge an easy $900 per night for parkfront rooms... Add an entry gate for resort guests...

I think something like that would make more sense than a tower behind the berm on the TL side.

And before anyone fusses about the idea of a hotel right up against the park... If done like Japan, it would be incredible. Here's a pic I took on my last trip.

 

frankc

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IMO (which isn't worth a hoot, obviously), I wouldn't see any reason for them to stick one stray Contemp building over there. If they really wanted to do something like that with a hotel and charge out the wazoo, they could easily make it its own resort. Think like the Mira Costa at Tokyo Disneyland. A western/southern resort over by BTMRR and Splash, that backed right up to the park. They could charge an easy $900 per night for parkfront rooms... Add an entry gate for resort guests...

I think something like that would make more sense than a tower behind the berm on the TL side.

And before anyone fusses about the idea of a hotel right up against the park... If done like Japan, it would be incredible. Here's a pic I took on my last trip.

I would stay there.
 

Bairstow

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Not at my local park. Disney's small and family attractions are what set them apart from other parks.

If we start getting into a roller coaster Disney, then there would be no reason for a lot of people to go. Most have better coasters within road trip distance.
Your local park contains extensively-themed indoor roller coasters on the scale of Tron, but no rides for kids? I find this implausible.

Go-karts and Dumbo-style spinners are a dime-a-dozen, but very few parks in the world have the resources to build E-tickets. That's why people come from across the world to see them.

What local parks are going to that have large roller coasters but nothing small-scale for kids? Surely nothing operated by Six Flags or Cedar Fair.
 

Buried20KLeague

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I would stay there.
And your pesky wallet would be nice and thin afterward!! :)

I stayed in a park view room in the Mira Costa. I think I paid $750 a night. It was sort of neat to wake up in the morning and just watch everything going on in the park before it opened. They were rehearsing the show in the lagoon (with the floats and everything), and white trucks were zipping all over the place making deliveries and so forth.

EDIT TO ADD: Found a pic from my room from before park open. :)

 

21stamps

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Your local park contains extensively-themed indoor roller coasters on the scale of Tron, but no rides for kids? I find this implausible.

Go-karts and Dumbo-style spinners are a dime-a-dozen, but very few parks in the world have the resources to build E-tickets. That's why people come from across the world to see them.

What local parks are going to that have large roller coasters but nothing small-scale for kids? Surely nothing operated by Six Flags or Cedar Fair.
None. That's not what I said.
I have no issue with the Tron coaster being added.

If Disney becomes "thrill" heavy.. and does away with attractions like the Speedway, then it isn't much different than many other parks...except for Disney's coasters probably won't be as thrilling.
Uni/IoA is better than Disney when it comes to thrills..and has great theming.
Cedar Fair and Six Flags have better thrills than Disney.

I don't go to Disney with thrills as my motivation. Go karts are not what the Speedway is. Most kids can't drive go karts. They can drive at the Speedway.

The beauty of WDW, for many, is that an entire family can enjoy the majority of the attractions together- as a family. Not waiving to their kid from the sidelines of an amusement park car driving ride.. and not splitting up so some of the family can ride the "big coasters" until they all reach 54".
 

frankc

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And your pesky wallet would be nice and thin afterward!! :)

I stayed in a park view room in the Mira Costa. I think I paid $750 a night. It was sort of neat to wake up in the morning and just watch everything going on in the park before it opened. They were rehearsing the show in the lagoon (with the floats and everything), and white trucks were zipping all over the place making deliveries and so forth.

EDIT TO ADD: Found a pic from my room from before park open. :)

Very cool
 

Goob

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I think everyone gets what you're saying. The main gripe with the Speedway is that it's just not a very modern take on what could be done in terms of themeing and originality.

And it just takes up way too much space for what it is. Lots of other things can be built there that the modern kid (and adult) would like a lot more.
 
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21stamps

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Anyway..because there appears to be confusion between go karts and car rides.. here's a version of a Go Kart in Orlando.. Fun Spot. I don't know what the height requirement is, I don't think it's 56", but it definitely wasn't 46".

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And below would be the most comparable attraction to the Speedway, that kids can actually drive, at our local Cedar Fair park..parents can not ride. We just smile and wave as they pass by..

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The Speedway can have children driving with parents riding next to them. Instead of vice versa or not at all.
That's the difference. Those type of attractions, while not exclusive to Disney, are fewer and farther between than the ones pictured above. That is what makes Disney so special.
 

Bairstow

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None. That's not what I said.
I have no issue with the Tron coaster being added.

If Disney becomes "thrill" heavy.. and does away with attractions like the Speedway, then it isn't much different than many other parks...except for Disney's coasters probably won't be as thrilling.
Uni/IoA is better than Disney when it comes to thrills..and has great theming.
Cedar Fair and Six Flags have better thrills than Disney.

I don't go to Disney with thrills as my motivation. Go karts are not what the Speedway is. Most kids can't drive go karts. They can drive at the Speedway.

The beauty of WDW, for many, is that an entire family can enjoy the majority of the attractions together- as a family. Not waiving to their kid from the sidelines of an amusement park car driving ride.. and not splitting up so some of the family can ride the "big coasters" until they all reach 54".
I don't think there's any danger of the Magic Kingdom running out of attractions with no height limit. At any rate, it's hardly a justification for keeping a sprawling attraction as loud, ugly, and boring as the Speedway.
 

flynnibus

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People have been saying that Countdown to Extinction is great since its recent refurbishment. It may be no Temple of the Forbidden Eye, but it's undeniably still an E-ticket.
Tell you what. For a discount I'll recreate CTE right at home for you. Ill lock you in a room, black it out, crank up the stereo, and proceed to just hit you with a bar of soap wrapped in a towel
 

Daveeeeed

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Tell you what. For a discount I'll recreate CTE right at home for you. Ill lock you in a room, black it out, crank up the stereo, and proceed to just hit you with a bar of soap wrapped in a towel
An E-ticket does not have to be good to make it an E-ticket. That's just its scale, flaws and all. It can in no way compete with Indiana Jones.
 

djdan888

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None. That's not what I said.
I have no issue with the Tron coaster being added.

If Disney becomes "thrill" heavy.. and does away with attractions like the Speedway, then it isn't much different than many other parks...except for Disney's coasters probably won't be as thrilling.
Uni/IoA is better than Disney when it comes to thrills..and has great theming.
Cedar Fair and Six Flags have better thrills than Disney.

I don't go to Disney with thrills as my motivation. Go karts are not what the Speedway is. Most kids can't drive go karts. They can drive at the Speedway.

The beauty of WDW, for many, is that an entire family can enjoy the majority of the attractions together- as a family. Not waiving to their kid from the sidelines of an amusement park car driving ride.. and not splitting up so some of the family can ride the "big coasters" until they all reach 54".
Disney is definitely not thrill heavy even with the addition of Tron. As far as thrill rides are concerned, there is currently is only one in the MK park I consider thrilling and that is Splash. There is room for both. You have the whole rest of the park for family rides. That is all Disney is.
 
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