Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?

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huwar18

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That isn't the story of Mystic Manor though, and 90% of the artifacts in Mystic Manor are not based on animals. Dinosaur and Dinoland fit because they are based on Animals of the past, and Dinosaur the ride's main message is about mass extinction and it's effect on our planet. Mystic Manor is about you going on a tour of a mansion that is filled with artifacts and those artifacts coming to life because of a music box. The only thing that is somewhat related is the Monkey and that's it. In order for it to fit in the park you would have to change the entire story and purpose of the ride to the point where it wouldn't be Mystic Manor anymore.

I am more talking about the SEA. There are many adventures in the society. Mystic Manor is only based on one. I am not saying a clone. I am talking about using another explorer or create a new one. Just like Jungle Cruise, Miss Fortune Falls and the Jock Lindsey's Hangar Bar.
 

bhg469

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I really wish I would have been able to ride that! I've never heard one person say a bad thing about it.
I did myself a favor and didn't watch anything about it. The screens were ok but the physical effects combined with the sounds and music, I was completely giddy. You couldn't slap the smile off of my face. I am really sorry you didn't get to ride it friend.
 

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I flat out refused to go in there when my family was at Disney in '05. Walking by Alien Encounter too many times as a kid scared the living daylights out of me, and I didn't want to have anything to do with Stitch because of it. Sure, I didn't have a ton of fun waiting for my family to exit the attraction, but I think I got the better end of the deal.

From watching videos of it though, that AA is a work of art. It deserves to have a home somewhere in the park, just not where it is. Two ideas on where it could go:
  1. One of the indoor areas on the PeopleMover
  2. Create an enclosed area on the train (like DL), and make Stitch wreak havoc for a bit near the Tomorrowland station.

3: Cosmic Rays.
4: Stays where he is with a better storyline and 4D effects.
 

SCOTLORR

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I flat out refused to go in there when my family was at Disney in '05. Walking by Alien Encounter too many times as a kid scared the living daylights out of me, and I didn't want to have anything to do with Stitch because of it. Sure, I didn't have a ton of fun waiting for my family to exit the attraction, but I think I got the better end of the deal.

From watching videos of it though, that AA is a work of art. It deserves to have a home somewhere in the park, just not where it is. Two ideas on where it could go:
  1. One of the indoor areas on the PeopleMover
  2. Create an enclosed area on the train (like DL), and make Stitch wreak havoc for a bit near the Tomorrowland station.
I really wish Stitch could have a better presence in MK. He's a hilarious, fun character that got wasted on a horrible attraction. I would love to see them move the animatronic over to adventure land to make a new attraction based on his ability of being a "pet" rather than an invader from space. Perhaps a Lilo and Stitch show to replace Tiki Room?? Wishful thinking.
 

21stamps

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I did myself a favor and didn't watch anything about it. The screens were ok but the physical effects combined with the sounds and music, I was completely giddy. You couldn't slap the smile off of my face. I am really sorry you didn't get to ride it friend.

I'm the same way with POVs.. I never watch them ahead of time. Maybe teaser trailers before something opens.. but not a full vid.
I seriously can not wait for a SW coaster at HS!
 

Tiki Queen of Outer Space

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Well thank goodness you aren't employed by the Disney company. I used to ask for Lego sets for my birthday and Christmas and wouldn't dare to build anything but what was in the instructions. Thank goodness there are people that can take those blocks and make them into something different.
Look the only reason why I care about this in the slightest is because there has been an extremely thorough effort made to keep Animal Kingdom cohesive and in line with it's values. I have a massive amount of respect for that and given the different forms of management that ravaged through the parks in it's short life I'm amazed that the park is still that way. You can trivialize that all you want, but I'd rather not see all that hard work go to waste again (like Epcot).
 

RSoxNo1

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Some of those other sites were also peddling GotG to take over Mission Space. And Tron to go to UoE. That's not happening. When one says a whole lot of different stuff then one is bound to get it right... as long as no one remembers all the things one got wrong.

Also, @marni1971 was on the side of "no Tron at all" but changed months ago to "Tron is now possible, just not the leading contender."

This is not a case of 'they' got it right and 'we' got it wrong. It's more complicated than that.
First off, I never want to be in a position where I'm defending Tom Corless. I recognize the position, but I also recognize that many people are quick to lump him and Jim Hill together when that's not really fair either. I've challenged Corless countless times publicly because he throws far too much ridiculous stuff out there to be taken too seriously. Jim's missteps on rumors have at least been grounded in reality.

I've seen a few different times on this forum where Jim has thrown out an idea and the trusted insiders on this site immediately shoot it down. This has recently included the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, C3PO piloting Star Tours 2.0 and the third theater for Soarin'.

Despite what others may think on here, Jim still gets good information, he just falls into the trap of wanting to put it out too early. I've seen @marni1971 exhibit far more restraint lately because I think he has occasionally been burned on similar things.

As it stands right now, there are three different ideas on Tron coming to Tomorrowland. Corless is saying it's a Speedway replacement, Jim has last said it's coming if Tron 3 is successful, and @marni1971 is indicating that it's going behind the Speedway and additional changes to the area are also possible. There's quite a bit of smoke there, and I'd probably be safe with classifying the Tron rumor as "In Development" on my site, but I'm not quite ready to do that. I've still got it classified as "Blue Sky".

The "guidelines" I use for these distinctions are as follows:

Blue Sky: A rumor is classified as “Blue Sky” when it is supported only by a single public source, or multiple sources that are providing conflicting information. While rumors frequently contain misinformation, “Blue Sky” rumors typically refer to projects that Disney is seriously considering for development in some form, at some undefined point in the future.

In Development: Rumors classified as "In Development" have moved beyond the "Blue Sky" classification. These rumors have typically not been publicly confirmed by the company, but are supported by multiple public sources or a source that appears to have direct knowledge of the project. "In Development" rumors often have timelines and details that are less concrete than "Confirmed" rumors.

Confirmed: Rumors classified as "Confirmed" have been publicly confirmed by Disney or are supported by other objective evidence such as permit filings or other public records. There have been instances of Disney confirming a rumor and the project still not happening, but those situations are rare.
 

peter11435

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Because a mysterious attraction in the middle of an abandoned looking trail in Asia can house mystic manor with no disruption to the flow of the land and the message of the park can still be intact because no one will question it. Its only a matter of time until they break from that anyway. DHS and EPCOT are already there. Why deprive the states of a great attraction? And even if we go with the opinion that the yeti fits, it will take very little effort to interject a storyline from India or China that will fit completely.
Sure you could stick it in the back of the jungle and it might not disrupt the rest of the land/park but that doesn't mean it will positively contribute to the flow and theme of the park and certainly doesn't mean it fits with the park. Just because guests won't question it doesn't make it right. Sure eventually disney might break from DAK's themeatic continuity but that doesn't mean we should encourage it. I for one don't want to see the only Florida park that has stayed true to its theme turn into another MK, Epcot, or DHS. I don't want to deprive WDW of MM. I would love to have the attraction, but I don't want to see it placed somewhere it doesn't belong.
 

jaxonp

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Google "Walt Disney" and "family."

cute.... again, 95% of the attractions already are family friendly.. not everyone visiting comes with family or has family. Clearly, the festivals at EPCOT have taught you nothing or you've missed the ever increasing alcohol offerings at the park. Disney needs to cater to everyone. They have nailed the family market... they realize they need to attract others as well...
 

RSoxNo1

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I think it's more the personality of the person posting.

You have guys like @marni1971 who are forthcoming about almost anything- blue sky, just tossed around, etc- and lays it all out there.
Then you have guys like @WDW1974 who is also constantly throwing out truths with a massive edge and opinion (which I used to dislike but now find entertaining- it's great).
Then you have guys like @whylightbulb who speaks very little, but when they do- you better listen- because his track record is impeccable. Others could be like him- only saying concrete things, but they choose to toss in loose rumors as well.

@Lee @articos and @Magic Feather are the other 3.
Outside of them, everyone else just regurgitates what others say.
Guys like Jim Hill I think are more like Martin in that he gives a lot of information- some that might even be "loose rumors" floating around wdw with a dose of spirit. To think he doesn't have sources and hear things is naive at best. He just likes to daydream and toss out opinions as well. The key difference is he gets paid. Our dear Martin does it simply because he's awesome.

Regardless, I trust our 6 guys more ;) we have a badass group. Love the info from all of them.
Not to call people out here, but none of the above posters have been flawless or impeccable. A general rule of thumb when discussing any of this is for multiple "trusted sources" to support a rumor. That gives it a lot more credibility before an official announcement.
 

Tiki Queen of Outer Space

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General question for the thread-

Why do so many of you want clones of rides from other parks?

From my perspective I think it's good for different parks to have different offerings. Not everything has to be the same. Original park exclusive rides would be nice, imo.
Honestly if you were to clone Mystic Manor, then there would be almost no reason to visit Hong Kong Disneyland at all.
 

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General question for the thread-

Why do so many of you want clones of rides from other parks?

From my perspective I think it's good for different parks to have different offerings. Not everything has to be the same. Original park exclusive rides would be nice, imo.

I don't think there's a wanting desire to have clones. Peeps just want to have rides. And clones = rides. Cheap(er) rides that WDW is more likely to acquire. Original attractions are thing of beauty but are as rare as the rarest of unicorns.
 

21stamps

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Not to call people out here, but none of the above posters have been flawless or impeccable. A general rule of thumb when discussing any of this is for multiple "trusted sources" to support a rumor. That gives it a lot more credibility before an official announcement.

Sometimes I like when they are wrong.lol. No offense to anyone.. but until Disney announces something I take anything I read with a grain of salt.
There was a thread a while ago about security.. probably the one time I was actually upset by something proposed by Disney recently (besides the fences/rocks)-- metal detectors and bag checks on docks at the MK resorts. I said they should be on the MK docks, not the resort. Told repeatedly I was wrong- they were coming to Poly and GF docks for certain...that the docks at MK weren't large enough.
Luckily- Disney went with my idea ;)
 
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