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mharrington

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A downward trajectory is not a time to relax all restrictions while we are still over 1000 deaths a day and new cases aren't below 50,000. March 8th, we had a single day of 124,000 new cases.

We are heading in the right direction but could easily spike in areas of high vaccine refusal, i.e. the south.

Also, @Disney Irish, cases in Italy are rising again, to the point where they had to shut down again the country. They are apparently much slower at vaccinations than the rest of the world.
 

PiratesMansion

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Also, @Disney Irish, cases in Italy are rising again, to the point where they had to shut down again the country. They are apparently much slower at vaccinations than the rest of the world.
Vaccine rollouts have disproportionately been happening in only small number of wealthier countries, benefiting us and a few other countries at the expense of everyone else.

Most of the world doesn't have the amount of vaccine supply that we do at this point.
 

Disney Irish

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A downward trajectory is not a time to relax all restrictions while we are still over 1000 deaths a day and new cases aren't below 50,000. March 8th, we had a single day of 124,000 new cases.

We are heading in the right direction but could easily spike in areas of high vaccine refusal, i.e. the south.
First of all we're talking specifically about California and the reopening of Disneyland.
Second of all California IS NOT completely relaxing all its restrictions.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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Vaccine rollouts have disproportionately been happening in only small number of wealthier countries, benefiting us and a few other countries at the expense of everyone else.

Most of the world doesn't have the amount of vaccine supply that we do at this point.
That is true. Yet I have a friend in Israel with connections in other countries. Vaccinations in Israel are at a fairly high percentage, and even former Soviet Union countries are getting vaccinated too. They are just using Israeli or Russian medicine, respectively.
 

fctiger

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Also, @Disney Irish, cases in Italy are rising again, to the point where they had to shut down again the country. They are apparently much slower at vaccinations than the rest of the world.

That's very true! Globally we are far from out of the woods yet. But it's at least nice to see the U.S. FINALLY leading in the right way again and ahead of everyone with vaccinating and not leading in death rates and other issues not that long ago. We're getting our stuff together again, but it doesn't mean we can't have another big outbreak that could lead to big lock downs and all of that again; especially with so many new variants. We can. That's why it's important we vaccinate everyone ASAP
 
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Heppenheimer

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Yes, some European countries have been slower at vaccinations than the US.
Most except the UK and some of the particularly small states have been slower than the US. Even countries with huge pharmaceutical industries (Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, France, Belgium) have been lagging.
 

davis_unoxx

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Most except the UK and some of the particularly small states have been slower than the US. Even countries with huge pharmaceutical industries (Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands, France, Belgium) have been lagging.
Do you think it could have to do with them being apart of the EU? Just wondering if the EU is coordinating all the vaccine distribution vs individual countries.
 

Nirya

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Do you think it could have to do with them being apart of the EU? Just wondering if the EU is coordinating all the vaccine distribution vs individual countries.

Europe's issues have a lot to do with supply issues (essentially, they were made promises as to the amount of vaccine that would be produced that the companies had no way of fulfilling). It does not help that Astrazeneca's vaccine is not having great results and is getting pulled from various nations, cutting into the supply even further.

Distribution has been the more recent issue, but that is on the individual country level. Some countries have done well, while others like Germany and France are struggling.
 

ToTBellHop

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Do you think it could have to do with them being apart of the EU? Just wondering if the EU is coordinating all the vaccine distribution vs individual countries.
They decided to purchase vaccine as a bloc instead of independently, but unfortunately, they obsessed over the price they were paying last year and missed out while other countries signed contracts. So they saved like $5/dose of Pfizer but we are getting ours first.

They also need to contend with the fact that vaccine skepticism is actually worse in the EU than in the USA. Their constant teeter-tottering in the AZ vaccine doesn’t help when that is one of the most widely-available ones there. You can’t say “it’s not safe for those over 65!” then 2 weeks later “oh, wait, it is!” And then a month later “blood clots!” And then two week later “oh wait, the rate is the same as in the normal population. Come get your shot!” and expect people to show up. It’s one mistake after another there.
 
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Darkbeer1

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>>A key indicator is the state’s lagging record in administering the vaccination doses it has been allocated, according to the California Center for Jobs and the Economy, the research arm of the California Roundtable.

The California Center, using data from the Centers for Disease Control, reported that through last week, California had used slightly over 70% of its supply, well under the national figure and ninth lowest among the 50 states.

Initially, Newsom had a priority plan for vaccines as they became available, worked out during months of consultation and drafting, but it was quickly abandoned as unworkable once the vaccines began arriving. Ever since, the criteria have changed almost daily, without any explanation of why.

Just this week, millions more Californians were added to the priority list. “Inundating a system already straining under the weight of limited supply, pervasive tech glitches, political infighting and general confusion,” as CalMatters blogger Emily Hoeven described it.

Supposedly the elderly and those with disabilities and severe health conditions were to be near the head of the line, but then Newsom set aside 10% of the vaccine supply for education workers to persuade them to reopen schools and another 40% for low-income communities where COVID-19 has hit the hardest. Last week, the state suddenly added transit workers, commercial airline employees, the homeless and those held in federal immigration centers.

On top of the state’s ever-changing priorities, Newsom decreed that health care giants Blue Shield and Kaiser would assume management of the state’s vaccine supplies, but local public health authorities, who had been managing vaccinations, balked at being compelled to deal with Blue Shield.

Meanwhile, the state’s effort at making vaccination appointments fairer and less stressful, called MyTurn, experienced glitches that rendered it almost useless.

Instead of the smoothly functioning vaccination system that Newsom touted in his State of the State address, it’s a confusing jumble that encourages line-cutting gamesmanship and breeds cynicism.<<

 

ToTBellHop

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>>A key indicator is the state’s lagging record in administering the vaccination doses it has been allocated, according to the California Center for Jobs and the Economy, the research arm of the California Roundtable.

The California Center, using data from the Centers for Disease Control, reported that through last week, California had used slightly over 70% of its supply, well under the national figure and ninth lowest among the 50 states.

Initially, Newsom had a priority plan for vaccines as they became available, worked out during months of consultation and drafting, but it was quickly abandoned as unworkable once the vaccines began arriving. Ever since, the criteria have changed almost daily, without any explanation of why.

Just this week, millions more Californians were added to the priority list. “Inundating a system already straining under the weight of limited supply, pervasive tech glitches, political infighting and general confusion,” as CalMatters blogger Emily Hoeven described it.

Supposedly the elderly and those with disabilities and severe health conditions were to be near the head of the line, but then Newsom set aside 10% of the vaccine supply for education workers to persuade them to reopen schools and another 40% for low-income communities where COVID-19 has hit the hardest. Last week, the state suddenly added transit workers, commercial airline employees, the homeless and those held in federal immigration centers.

On top of the state’s ever-changing priorities, Newsom decreed that health care giants Blue Shield and Kaiser would assume management of the state’s vaccine supplies, but local public health authorities, who had been managing vaccinations, balked at being compelled to deal with Blue Shield.

Meanwhile, the state’s effort at making vaccination appointments fairer and less stressful, called MyTurn, experienced glitches that rendered it almost useless.

Instead of the smoothly functioning vaccination system that Newsom touted in his State of the State address, it’s a confusing jumble that encourages line-cutting gamesmanship and breeds cynicism.<<

KISS “Keep It Simple Stupid”. Here in CT, we abandoned having 357 priority groups and instead go by age. This has allowed us to use 87% of our doses and we are opening appointments up to anyone over 16 on 4/5 despite greater-than-70% uptake among all groups thus far.
 

SuddenStorm

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A new wave of CM recalls for DCA and DL is going out starting April 4 and up to April 25. Means all cast they think they’ll need to reopen the parks should be trained by the end of the week of the 25th. So seems like we’ll get an early May reopening.

A friend says she knows some leads and trainers who have been called back- so it looks like Disney's starting from the top down for CM recalls.
 

cmwade77

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A new wave of CM recalls for DCA and DL is going out starting April 4 and up to April 25. Means all cast they think they’ll need to reopen the parks should be trained by the end of the week of the 25th. So seems like we’ll get an early May reopening.
I am guessing there will be some form of reopening, either previews for CMs or legacy passholders starting April 29.
 
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