News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

SplashJacket

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That’s disappointing. Is it as good as slinky dog dash?
It's substantially better than Slinky.

Tron is great simply for the atmosphere. We can't know how much it adds to Tomorrowland until it opens, but you don't have to actually ride Tron to love Tron.

The vibe and aesthetics of Tron are substantially better than the actual ride. The first break-section shouldn't trim as much speed as it does and the actual ride should be substantially longer.

To me, Hagrids is the best-themed coaster in the world and Velocicoaster is the best thrilling coaster in the world.
 

jaxonp

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It's substantially better than Slinky.

Tron is great simply for the atmosphere. We can't know how much it adds to Tomorrowland until it opens, but you don't have to actually ride Tron to love Tron.

The vibe and aesthetics of Tron are substantially better than the actual ride. The first break-section shouldn't trim as much speed as it does and the actual ride should be substantially longer.

To me, Hagrids is the best-themed coaster in the world and Velocicoaster is the best thrilling coaster in the world.

The atmosphere in SHDL is good but all over Tomorrowland looks like its part of Tron. MKs Tron will have a different vibe and probably won't be as deluxe of a setup overall walking up to the canopy. Time will tell but not sure it will be better than SHDL from an atmosphere. I agree the the ride feels cool, especially walking through the queue, but it's mediocre after the initial launch, imo.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Tron is many levels below both those coaster.
The atmosphere in SHDL is good but all over Tomorrowland looks like its part of Tron. MKs Tron will have a different vibe and probably won't be as deluxe of a setup overall walking up to the canopy. Time will tell but not sure it will be better than SHDL from an atmosphere. I agree the the ride feels cool, especially walking through the queue, but it's mediocre after the initial launch, imo.
Different strokes for different folks, but I think Tron is far more successful at its core purpose (fast launch, cool glowing aesthetic) than Ratatouille.

Tron's also perfect for MK, which has never had anything too thrilling (the park's not getting a VelociCoaster rival anytime soon).

In the battle of the clones, I know which one I'm most excited to experience again. Those who disagree have every right to pick Epcot as their morning park (or head to MK and ride Space Mountain).
 

jaxonp

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Different strokes for different folks, but I think Tron is far more successful at its core purpose (fast launch, cool glowing aesthetic) than Ratatouille.

Tron's also perfect for MK, which has never had anything too thrilling (the park's not getting a VelociCoaster rival anytime soon).

In the battle of the clones, I know which one I'm most excited to experience again. Those who disagree have every right to pick Epcot as their morning park (or head to MK and ride Space Mountain).

you don’t think Tron would have worked perfectly and better fit in Future World?
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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you don’t think Tron would have worked perfectly and better fit in Future World?
I would have liked it there too!

But I think it works in Tomorrowland, and I'm excited for MK to have a zippy (yet relatively straightforward) coaster.

It also would have been a bit redundant with Test Track: both feature a similar aesthetic, take place inside virtual worlds, are at their most fun when they go 'zoom', and break their immersion during said segments (which happen to be the main reason people ride). So I'm okay with how it worked out.

Am even okay with Ratatouille. I wish it were better (just like many wish Tron were longer), but it certainly fits in WS and brings something different to the park.
 

Bocabear

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Tron would have perfectly fit the architectural vernacular of Future World...And with Test Track, they would have been harmonious near each other... Nothing bad about that. The Tron aesthetic just plays better in the Future World setting... It also has the smaller gravity building which would have been nice. A ride about computer gaming is really a perfect fit for the Future World story... Guardians Of The Galaxy Was a better fit for DHS or Tomorrowland...except for the height of the Gravity Building....
 

pdude81

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Tron would have perfectly fit the architectural vernacular of Future World...And with Test Track, they would have been harmonious near each other... Nothing bad about that. The Tron aesthetic just plays better in the Future World setting... It also has the smaller gravity building which would have been nice. A ride about computer gaming is really a perfect fit for the Future World story... Guardians Of The Galaxy Was a better fit for DHS or Tomorrowland...except for the height of the Gravity Building....
I'd rather they keep the blue warehouse and destroy Mission Space. If they were going to destroy half of Communicore, it could have been the other side. But yes Tron would be cool in FW for sure
 

jaxonp

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Tron would have perfectly fit the architectural vernacular of Future World...And with Test Track, they would have been harmonious near each other... Nothing bad about that. The Tron aesthetic just plays better in the Future World setting... It also has the smaller gravity building which would have been nice. A ride about computer gaming is really a perfect fit for the Future World story... Guardians Of The Galaxy Was a better fit for DHS or Tomorrowland...except for the height of the Gravity Building....
Yes.
 

jaxonp

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I personally think Guardians will likely be a headline attraction to rival FOP & RotR for the resort and they knew Tron wasn't that. Tron will not garner the waits that the other two will over the long haul and that is was they ultimately choose MK for Tron. MK doesn't need a crazy headliner to attract. Word of mouth will spread soon enough and everyone will be gaga for Guardians... at least that is my guess as to what Management is hoping.
 

Hawkeye_2018

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I personally think Guardians will likely be a headline attraction to rival FOP & RotR for the resort and they knew Tron wasn't that. Tron will not garner the waits that the other two will over the long haul and that is was they ultimately choose MK for Tron. MK doesn't need a crazy headliner to attract. Word of mouth will spread soon enough and everyone will be gaga for Guardians... at least that is my guess as to what Management is hoping.
Correct. Guardians is the only Marvel attraction at WDW so the demand will be crazy
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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I personally think Guardians will likely be a headline attraction to rival FOP & RotR for the resort and they knew Tron wasn't that. Tron will not garner the waits that the other two will over the long haul and that is was they ultimately choose MK for Tron. MK doesn't need a crazy headliner to attract. Word of mouth will spread soon enough and everyone will be gaga for Guardians... at least that is my guess as to what Management is hoping.
If Tron wasn't viewed by the company as a headliner, it would not have opened at Shanghai Disneyland as THE anchor for Tomorrowland. It and Pirates were designed as the immediate must-see attractions for the Mainland China park. They know it will be a massive hit for the Magic Kingdom.
 

jaxonp

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If Tron wasn't viewed by the company as a headliner, it would not have opened at Shanghai Disneyland as THE anchor for Tomorrowland. It and Pirates were designed as the immediate must-see attractions for the Mainland China park. They know it will be a massive hit for the Magic Kingdom.

they may have been designed that way but tron and pirates are not equals.
 

jaxonp

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Any new attraction at WDW will always be insanely popular. Just because WDW is popular and people love something new.

Seven Dwarves Mine Train for example is a pretty average attraction. It's a good addition but its popularity isn't reflective of how good it is, IMO.
Of course but there’s game changers and then a there just popular attractions. Tron will also limit the amount of people that can ride it because of its height requirement and interesting size limits.
 

CJR

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Any new attraction at WDW will always be insanely popular. Just because WDW is popular and people love something new.

Seven Dwarves Mine Train for example is a pretty average attraction. It's a good addition but its popularity isn't reflective of how good it is, IMO.

Honestly, it's the same even at most regional parks. A new coaster will almost always have a line. The thing is, regional and local parks tend to add new rides almost annually. At this time, Mine Train is still the newest toy at MK, refurbishments aside.
 

jaxonp

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Honestly, it's the same even at most regional parks. A new coaster will almost always have a line. The thing is, regional and local parks tend to add new rides almost annually. At this time, Mine Train is still the newest toy at MK, refurbishments aside.

SDMT also fits nicely into the core demographic of family’s that attend MK. Is it mostly mediocre? Yes. But just about everyone can ride it so there’s that.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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they may have been designed that way but tron and pirates are not equals.
They’re far from equals, but the satisfaction they provide (for a typical guest) is surprisingly similar.

Mission Breakout is another attraction that has no right to be as fun as it is. My inner curmudgeon wants to hate it for replacing something ‘sacred,’ but I like it more than DCA’s ToT. Had never seen Guardians before riding it, either.

Not to knock Ratatouille endlessly, it seems like Rat’s also more fun (for most) than I give it credit for. That’s ultimately what matters.
 

doctornick

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I personally think Guardians will likely be a headline attraction to rival FOP & RotR for the resort and they knew Tron wasn't that. Tron will not garner the waits that the other two will over the long haul and that is was they ultimately choose MK for Tron. MK doesn't need a crazy headliner to attract. Word of mouth will spread soon enough and everyone will be gaga for Guardians... at least that is my guess as to what Management is hoping.

I also think a part of it is Tron will rival RNR as the most "intense" coaster at WDW. It makes more sense to put that in a park with other less intense coasters so guests have options.

Conversely, GOTG is the first coaster at Epcot and I think they would want something more family friendly there (they've called it a "family coaster" in addition to "story coaster" so I don't think it will be too crazy and probably have something like a 40-42" height requirement).
 

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