EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

networkpro

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What's not internally consistent about Mexico, Germany, Italy, and Morocco? There could be something, but nothing jumps out at me in thinking about it. I suppose maybe the additional outdoor buildings at Mexico; I was really only thinking about the pyramid interior. Same thing with Morocco. Those were later additions, though (I think all were), so similar problem as France.

The UK isn't, but that's by design -- it's supposed to take you through the different eras of UK architecture.

Germany and Mexican areas have the same issue as UK. Different region and era representational architectures. Neither is monolithic.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Germany and Mexican areas have the same issue as UK. Different region and era representational architectures. Neither is monolithic.
That's not the problem.

If the France Pavilion depicted additional regions of France outside of Paris, but rendered them all in the same artistic style, I would have no complaints. That's Romanticising. That's what Germany, Mexico, and the UK Pavilions do. And they do it successfully.

The France Pavilion now renders the same city in two different styles within the same Pavilion.

OG EPCOT France and Ratatouille France are distinct styles that are not congruent with each other. THAT'S the problem.

You seem to have made up your mind to misunderstand.
 

lazyboy97o

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If the France Pavilion depicted additional regions of France outside of Paris, but rendered them all in the same artistic style, I would have no complaints. That's Romanticising. That's what Germany, Mexico, and the UK Pavilions do. And they do it successfully.
And China. It is rarely mentioned but the China Pavilion feature a variety of vernacular styles from across China along with more formal styles.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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And China. It is rarely mentioned but the China Pavilion feature a variety of vernacular styles from across China along with more formal styles.
It's probably true that most of the Pavilions do this to at least some extent. I was just citing those three because they were cited in the post I replied to.
 

UNCgolf

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It's probably true that most of the Pavilions do this to at least some extent. I was just citing those three because they were cited in the post I replied to.

Italy does but only in relatively minor ways, at least as originally built. The pavilion was mostly Venetian with some Rome scattered around -- until they built Via Napoli, which is more or less Florentine (despite being named for Naples). I could be wrong (just going off memory), but I don't think there's much, if anything, based on southern Italy.
 

LittleBuford

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That's not the problem.

If the France Pavilion depicted additional regions of France outside of Paris, but rendered them all in the same artistic style, I would have no complaints. That's Romanticising. That's what Germany, Mexico, and the UK Pavilions do. And they do it successfully.

The France Pavilion now renders the same city in two different styles within the same Pavilion.

OG EPCOT France and Ratatouille France are distinct styles that are not congruent with each other. THAT'S the problem.

You seem to have made up your mind to misunderstand.
The existing France pavilion, however, was specifically Parisian in design. I can’t see how a non-Parisian addition, even if rendered in the same style, would have given a more congruous result than the Ratatouille extension, which at least remains true to the overall locational conceit.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Even the Royal Sommerhus generally fits this if you ignore what's inside.
Gotta disagree on that. The pavilion was built as one village but using the distinct architectural styles of each of four different Norwegian towns. The extension of the Royal Sommerhaus wrecked that integrity completely by impinging onto the neighbouring style buildings. ☹️
 

Sue_Vongello

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If the area is opening next week, it does seem odd that some people are saying the attraction won't open until March or even June. Why open the area? Unless the crepe place and gift shop is opening ... which would make sense.
 

wdwmagic

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If the area is opening next week, it does seem odd that some people are saying the attraction won't open until March or even June. Why open the area? Unless the crepe place and gift shop is opening ... which would make sense.
Yes i can very likely see a gradual phased opening of the area. The actual ride will likely be when they can properly market it.
 

LittleBuford

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Only from the promenade though. The sides were meant to be more provincial.
Fair enough. The overall look is still far more homogenous than that of the UK pavilion, for instance. It feels more like a representation of Paris than of France in general, and the Ratatouille extension honours that.
 

marni1971

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Fair enough. The overall look is still far more homogenous than that of the UK pavilion, for instance. It feels more like a representation of Paris than of France in general, and the Ratatouille extension honours that.
Oh, the UK is all over the show. France certainly feels like the France I’m familiar with.

Flat painted facade and too tall chimneys notwithstanding of course :)
 

aladdin2007

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Gotta disagree on that. The pavilion was built as one village but using the distinct architectural styles of each of four different Norwegian towns. The extension of the Royal Sommerhaus wrecked that integrity completely by impinging onto the neighbouring style buildings. ☹️
I get what your saying and I don't totally disagree, but the way they did it blends in fairly okay on its own for what it is, especially with the grassed roof that was already there and then they added more of that connection to the new buildings. The location was never meant or designed for more Norway, I wish they would not have thrown out park design in how expansions were meant to go forward, but they have thrown out everything that this park was meant to be and nothing matters anymore. Best part is if they ever wanted to do something different all together on that pad everything on it can be done away with, just wont happen in any of our lifetimes. That was(could be) prime real estate for a big new pavilion someday.
 

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