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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Cre8iveN8ive

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yes, thanks!
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Tom Morrow

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View attachment 577128I hope the final fountain show is more impressive than this. Hopefully just a test.
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I finally saw the barges in person. I know I'm late to the party here. but the fountains are not enough to disguise how absolutely hideous these things are. They're massive and throw off the scale of everything and make it feel smaller. I can't fathom how nobody behind this project understood that the lagoon looking natural is very important to World Showcase's aesthetics and atmosphere. Most of the pavilions do not fully immerse you in their environment and have the lagoon in view in one direction.

I'm very happy to hear that the torches are staying, at least. At least they understood that.
 

trainplane3

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I remember @marni1971 and other reputable sources mentioning that if they were to continue using them beyond Epcot Forever, they would need pricey repairs as they were at the end of their service life. So, if that's true, Disney actually spent money to keep using them.
They underwent refurbs in 2018 I believe. There was about a month or so without torches. Fuel lines needed replaced among other things.

Edit: I was off by two years but here it is: https://www.laughingplace.com/w/new...wcase-torches-undergoing-brief-refurbishment/
 
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mnelson3

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There was apparently a invitation only special event for select travel professionals in Epcot 8/10 that involved what looked like a set-up similar to a Corporate Event Package with food (mainly desserts) and drinks including alcohol hostes lagoon-side in front of Italy. It included fireworks viewing. The individual that posted mentions it was a “thank you” and a way for Disney to practice the return of dessert parties.

What I found most interesting is the available selection of alcohol available was far beyond a single signature cocktail and the location used.

Could we expect to hear a return of dessert parties sooner than we think? Whenever they do make a return, could we see a move of the dessert party viewing location back to Italy? Or, is this not the dessert party as we know it and just Corporate Events practicing for their fireworks viewing package grand debut (which had been previously mentioned those opened a few months back with dates as early as October) and they kept it simple with just serving desserts?

Anyone that may have any additional info?

Post/Information was found on Facebook using #disneydessertparty or #epcotdessertparty

Something Disney will announce or will reservations just quietly go on sale?
 

DreamfinderGuy

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Zach Riddley confirmed the torches aren't going anywhere and will be a part of Harmonious. I know the insiders talked about this ages ago, but this is the first I recall Disney saying anything on it officially.
I hope they have some sort of relevance in the show and they're not just used for some kind of lighting effect. Without Torch 20, they hold no significance the way they were intended, and their presence in EPCOT Forever is just for a "Remember when the torches meant something?" moment.
 

Cre8iveN8ive

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Something Disney will announce or will reservations just quietly go on sale?
Not sure. I’d hope they’d announce much like they’ve been announcing when most other offerings have returned. This may be one of those things that TA’s get notice of details prior to the general announcement sent out to the masses. 🤷‍♂️
 
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zoso

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Not gonna lie, went to Epcot the other day and the barges didn’t bother me after a while. I’m sure the show is gonna be stunning.

I do wonder if it would’ve been possible to do a world of color style of show that keeps the magic hidden in the water instead of giant badges
 

mnelson3

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Yep. That’s the two for this week.

I do love the perimeters in the finale but otherwise the finale feels weak compared to EF. Lack of high pyro is what it appears. Also I hope the lighting looks better or more visable than it did in the pics Disney released. I know smoke or fog will help that, same with other park show lighting and lasers.
 

marni1971

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Premium Member
I do love the perimeters in the finale but otherwise the finale feels weak compared to EF. Lack of high pyro is what it appears. Also I hope the lighting looks better or more visable than it did in the pics Disney released. I know smoke or fog will help that, same with other park show lighting and lasers.
I don’t think the full finale has been run for a while. It does have plenty of high pyro.

I’ll just say when seen properly it’s a fitting finale.
 

Vinnie Mac

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I do love the perimeters in the finale but otherwise the finale feels weak compared to EF. Lack of high pyro is what it appears. Also I hope the lighting looks better or more visable than it did in the pics Disney released. I know smoke or fog will help that, same with other park show lighting and lasers.
Harmonious production team: How many perimeters do you want for the finale?
Disney:
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wdwmagic

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I do love the perimeters in the finale but otherwise the finale feels weak compared to EF. Lack of high pyro is what it appears. Also I hope the lighting looks better or more visable than it did in the pics Disney released. I know smoke or fog will help that, same with other park show lighting and lasers.
Harmonious has a more powerful finale than EF by quite a big margin.
 

mnelson3

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Harmonious has a more powerful finale than EF by quite a big margin.

Better than RoE? Big shoes to fill there in more ways than one lol. Hopefully it comes with a powerful soundtrack and finale song.

Anxious to see which show will have the more impressive soundtrack, Harmonious or Enchantment.
 

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