Patcheslee
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101% total makes me skeptical of polls. How do they miss that simple math?
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But that may eliminate a majority of the population.
UNCgolf
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I think this is true now, but I also think it's something that will become a bigger issue in primaries and/or a general election (if he is the nominee) because his opponents will make sure everyone knows about it. It's a great avenue for attack ads etc.
GrumpyFan
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Wording of the questions does play a HUGE role in how people perceive and answer the question.
RamblinWreck
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I think most people have no idea what the details are so they don’t really know enough to form an opinion based on the questions asked.
I would be more shocked by the results if someone had to read a few paragraphs about what the district is and what DeSantis has actually done to it before answering the poll questions.
My guess is a question like “do you approve of the original plan to dissolve RCID?” would get a lot more support than “do you approve of DeSantis personally taking over the district, installing unqualified puppets to run it, and having them start making major changes to it before they even have a clue?”
New article from the Orlando Sentinel.
"State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen.
State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to assume responsibility for Disney World’s ride inspections after DeSantis proposed doing that in mid-April amid his feud with the company over Florida’s so-called “don’t say gay” law.
Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson appeared to support the idea at the time, but a spokesman for his office said this week that was not the case.
Brian Avery, an independent ride safety consultant, said Disney’s lawsuit against the governor and state filed the following week alleging political retaliation was a likely cause.
“I’m certain that the legal wrangling that is going on has possibly put some things in a full stop, or maybe a pause until they can regroup and maybe pick this up at a later date,” Avery said.
However, the state Department of Transportation will have the power to inspect Disney World’s monorail system, another measure DeSantis pushed for at the press conference on Disney property. DeSantis signed the monorail bill into law Thursday.
At the April 17 appearance, DeSantis said Disney has been “carved out” of amusement park safety regulations overseen by the agriculture department, but the department is “back in the game, so they’re going to make sure that that’s done.”
State law allows Florida’s theme parks with more than 1,000 full-time employees and their own inspectors to self-inspect their rides as long as they file an annual affidavit with the state asserting the attractions are in compliance with regulations. The major attractions regularly report ride-related guest injuries under a voluntary memorandum of understanding with the agriculture agency.
Speaking after DeSantis, Simpson said, “I stand here today in support of this legislation that will allow my department to conduct inspections when someone is seriously injured on an amusement ride. … We do that across the board for amusement rides everywhere, except large theme parks. Where a person is injured should not determine how the state responds.”
But Simpson’s office this week said his comments were not in support of DeSantis’ proposal to revoke Disney’s inspection exemption, but for a withdrawn amendment that would have allowed the department to inspect major theme parks’ rides after a complaint or reported accident.
Records show the amendment was filed April 14 and withdrawn prior to consideration on April 15, two days before the press conference.
“We have no legislative proposal or record that reflects your characterization of Gov. DeSantis’ position on inspections,” agency spokesman Aaron Keller said in an email.
The department will “continue to support transparency and ride safety on behalf of the millions of people that enjoy our amusement parks and rides throughout Florida,” he said.
DeSantis called for ride inspections at Disney alone, not including Universal, SeaWorld or other large Florida attractions.
Spokespeople for DeSantis and Disney World did not respond to requests for comment. The resort previously said it has been an industry leader in safety and was “instrumental” in developing the agreement that allows self-inspection and injury reporting."
Full article below.
www.orlandosentinel.com
"State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen.
State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to assume responsibility for Disney World’s ride inspections after DeSantis proposed doing that in mid-April amid his feud with the company over Florida’s so-called “don’t say gay” law.
Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson appeared to support the idea at the time, but a spokesman for his office said this week that was not the case.
Brian Avery, an independent ride safety consultant, said Disney’s lawsuit against the governor and state filed the following week alleging political retaliation was a likely cause.
“I’m certain that the legal wrangling that is going on has possibly put some things in a full stop, or maybe a pause until they can regroup and maybe pick this up at a later date,” Avery said.
However, the state Department of Transportation will have the power to inspect Disney World’s monorail system, another measure DeSantis pushed for at the press conference on Disney property. DeSantis signed the monorail bill into law Thursday.
At the April 17 appearance, DeSantis said Disney has been “carved out” of amusement park safety regulations overseen by the agriculture department, but the department is “back in the game, so they’re going to make sure that that’s done.”
State law allows Florida’s theme parks with more than 1,000 full-time employees and their own inspectors to self-inspect their rides as long as they file an annual affidavit with the state asserting the attractions are in compliance with regulations. The major attractions regularly report ride-related guest injuries under a voluntary memorandum of understanding with the agriculture agency.
Speaking after DeSantis, Simpson said, “I stand here today in support of this legislation that will allow my department to conduct inspections when someone is seriously injured on an amusement ride. … We do that across the board for amusement rides everywhere, except large theme parks. Where a person is injured should not determine how the state responds.”
But Simpson’s office this week said his comments were not in support of DeSantis’ proposal to revoke Disney’s inspection exemption, but for a withdrawn amendment that would have allowed the department to inspect major theme parks’ rides after a complaint or reported accident.
Records show the amendment was filed April 14 and withdrawn prior to consideration on April 15, two days before the press conference.
“We have no legislative proposal or record that reflects your characterization of Gov. DeSantis’ position on inspections,” agency spokesman Aaron Keller said in an email.
The department will “continue to support transparency and ride safety on behalf of the millions of people that enjoy our amusement parks and rides throughout Florida,” he said.
DeSantis called for ride inspections at Disney alone, not including Universal, SeaWorld or other large Florida attractions.
Spokespeople for DeSantis and Disney World did not respond to requests for comment. The resort previously said it has been an industry leader in safety and was “instrumental” in developing the agreement that allows self-inspection and injury reporting."
Full article below.
DeSantis’ call for state to inspect Disney rides doesn’t fly
Florida lawmakers did not consider a bill for state inspectors to oversee Disney World’s ride inspections as Gov. Ron DeSantis proposed.
www.orlandosentinel.com
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The article missed another possible reason for the lack of follow through, that CFTOD was given the authority to regulate ride safety.New article from the Orlando Sentinel.
"State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen.
State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to assume responsibility for Disney World’s ride inspections after DeSantis proposed doing that in mid-April amid his feud with the company over Florida’s so-called “don’t say gay” law.
Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson appeared to support the idea at the time, but a spokesman for his office said this week that was not the case.
Brian Avery, an independent ride safety consultant, said Disney’s lawsuit against the governor and state filed the following week alleging political retaliation was a likely cause.
“I’m certain that the legal wrangling that is going on has possibly put some things in a full stop, or maybe a pause until they can regroup and maybe pick this up at a later date,” Avery said.
However, the state Department of Transportation will have the power to inspect Disney World’s monorail system, another measure DeSantis pushed for at the press conference on Disney property. DeSantis signed the monorail bill into law Thursday.
At the April 17 appearance, DeSantis said Disney has been “carved out” of amusement park safety regulations overseen by the agriculture department, but the department is “back in the game, so they’re going to make sure that that’s done.”
State law allows Florida’s theme parks with more than 1,000 full-time employees and their own inspectors to self-inspect their rides as long as they file an annual affidavit with the state asserting the attractions are in compliance with regulations. The major attractions regularly report ride-related guest injuries under a voluntary memorandum of understanding with the agriculture agency.
Speaking after DeSantis, Simpson said, “I stand here today in support of this legislation that will allow my department to conduct inspections when someone is seriously injured on an amusement ride. … We do that across the board for amusement rides everywhere, except large theme parks. Where a person is injured should not determine how the state responds.”
But Simpson’s office this week said his comments were not in support of DeSantis’ proposal to revoke Disney’s inspection exemption, but for a withdrawn amendment that would have allowed the department to inspect major theme parks’ rides after a complaint or reported accident.
Records show the amendment was filed April 14 and withdrawn prior to consideration on April 15, two days before the press conference.
“We have no legislative proposal or record that reflects your characterization of Gov. DeSantis’ position on inspections,” agency spokesman Aaron Keller said in an email.
The department will “continue to support transparency and ride safety on behalf of the millions of people that enjoy our amusement parks and rides throughout Florida,” he said.
DeSantis called for ride inspections at Disney alone, not including Universal, SeaWorld or other large Florida attractions.
Spokespeople for DeSantis and Disney World did not respond to requests for comment. The resort previously said it has been an industry leader in safety and was “instrumental” in developing the agreement that allows self-inspection and injury reporting."
Full article below.
DeSantis’ call for state to inspect Disney rides doesn’t fly
Florida lawmakers did not consider a bill for state inspectors to oversee Disney World’s ride inspections as Gov. Ron DeSantis proposed.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
Well, a bill about ride inspections did pass but it was about smaller amusement parks and came about after the tragic fall of a teen from a free fall ride in Downtown Orlando. It appears that, while an amendment specifically crafted for larger amusement parks (use your imagination) was tempting, Legislators resisted the urge.New article from the Orlando Sentinel.
"State officials will not take over Space Mountain or other Disney World ride inspections soon, despite Gov. Ron DeSantis saying it would happen.
State lawmakers in the session that ended May 5 did not consider a bill for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to assume responsibility for Disney World’s ride inspections after DeSantis proposed doing that in mid-April amid his feud with the company over Florida’s so-called “don’t say gay” law.
Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson appeared to support the idea at the time, but a spokesman for his office said this week that was not the case.
Brian Avery, an independent ride safety consultant, said Disney’s lawsuit against the governor and state filed the following week alleging political retaliation was a likely cause.
“I’m certain that the legal wrangling that is going on has possibly put some things in a full stop, or maybe a pause until they can regroup and maybe pick this up at a later date,” Avery said.
However, the state Department of Transportation will have the power to inspect Disney World’s monorail system, another measure DeSantis pushed for at the press conference on Disney property. DeSantis signed the monorail bill into law Thursday.
At the April 17 appearance, DeSantis said Disney has been “carved out” of amusement park safety regulations overseen by the agriculture department, but the department is “back in the game, so they’re going to make sure that that’s done.”
State law allows Florida’s theme parks with more than 1,000 full-time employees and their own inspectors to self-inspect their rides as long as they file an annual affidavit with the state asserting the attractions are in compliance with regulations. The major attractions regularly report ride-related guest injuries under a voluntary memorandum of understanding with the agriculture agency.
Speaking after DeSantis, Simpson said, “I stand here today in support of this legislation that will allow my department to conduct inspections when someone is seriously injured on an amusement ride. … We do that across the board for amusement rides everywhere, except large theme parks. Where a person is injured should not determine how the state responds.”
But Simpson’s office this week said his comments were not in support of DeSantis’ proposal to revoke Disney’s inspection exemption, but for a withdrawn amendment that would have allowed the department to inspect major theme parks’ rides after a complaint or reported accident.
Records show the amendment was filed April 14 and withdrawn prior to consideration on April 15, two days before the press conference.
“We have no legislative proposal or record that reflects your characterization of Gov. DeSantis’ position on inspections,” agency spokesman Aaron Keller said in an email.
The department will “continue to support transparency and ride safety on behalf of the millions of people that enjoy our amusement parks and rides throughout Florida,” he said.
DeSantis called for ride inspections at Disney alone, not including Universal, SeaWorld or other large Florida attractions.
Spokespeople for DeSantis and Disney World did not respond to requests for comment. The resort previously said it has been an industry leader in safety and was “instrumental” in developing the agreement that allows self-inspection and injury reporting."
Full article below.
DeSantis’ call for state to inspect Disney rides doesn’t fly
Florida lawmakers did not consider a bill for state inspectors to oversee Disney World’s ride inspections as Gov. Ron DeSantis proposed.
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MickeyLuv'r
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Oh, that's just the tiny icing dot on the tippy top of the 20-layer cake. A close family member of mine- years ago - worked for a market research company. The company tried to be reputable, no sales ever, just product research. Most often, they gave volunteers a free sample, then did their best to assess how much the person liked the new product before it went to market.
For something like a cake mix or shampoo, that meant calling the person about a week after giving them the free sample. It always surprised me, but many people enjoyed volunteering. They were never paid for their time.
Myself though, I was involuntarily subjected to hearing hours upon hours of the same questions repeated over and over for weeks at a time. Like it or not, I learned a great deal though.
To get good market research, volunteers were asked - more or less- the same questions over and over in different formats. Multiple questions about the look of the mix would be interspersed with myriad questions about every aspect of the cake mix. The color questions (alone) went something like this:
What adjectives would you use to describe the color?
- of the mix before it was baked, after it was baked, while you were mixing it, when you ate the last slice. etc.
Rate the overall color of the mix on scale of 1-5
Do you agree with this description, "The cake mix makes me think of rich chocolate?"
And so on......
HOW the question is asked has a BIG impact on the response. Not only how the question is worded, but the TONE of voice used by the interviewer.
Time of day has an impact. Very surveys were often divided into two sessions: one had to be in the AM and the other in the PM.
Responses from one part of the survey were checked against others. Interviewees often gave mixed results. Sometimes said they liked everything about the mix, but still said they wouldn't buy it. Others did the opposite; they gave numerous critiques, but said they would to buy it.
People would often change their mind mid-survey. At the start of the questions, they might say the color was fine, but later confess it looked like dirt.
In short, I learned there are countless ways to skew market research (and polls).
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scottieRoss
Well-Known Member
The site that shall not be named posted a story today about the new Digital Signage over World Drive. They also touched on the change from the Purple classic signage to the new Blue and Yellow signage. Made me do some deep thinking. And that can often lead to some scary thoughts. Once CFTOD realizes that they own the major roadways and the land surrounding these roads. I would think that they might realize that they also control the road signs.
Are we going to see an end to the pretty blue/yellow signs and see a switch to a different style. I do realize that they have to maintain comliance with the Manual for Uniform Traffic Control Devices. But they do have the leeway to put their logo on an ugly sign.
And even more disturbing, can they change the signage:
Instead of Epcot and a pretty arrow, Can they change the signs to "Epcot (Not a city)" and an ugly arrow.
Or instead of 'Blizzard Beach' the road signs could say 'Blizzard Beach(If it is actually open)'
Oh the nightmares the CFTOD puts me through
Are we going to see an end to the pretty blue/yellow signs and see a switch to a different style. I do realize that they have to maintain comliance with the Manual for Uniform Traffic Control Devices. But they do have the leeway to put their logo on an ugly sign.
And even more disturbing, can they change the signage:
Instead of Epcot and a pretty arrow, Can they change the signs to "Epcot (Not a city)" and an ugly arrow.
Or instead of 'Blizzard Beach' the road signs could say 'Blizzard Beach(If it is actually open)'
Oh the nightmares the CFTOD puts me through
Prince-1
Well-Known Member
Maybe they mentioned it on the Real Housewives or the Kardashians?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I agree that most people have no idea of the details of this case. I do think at a high level a lot of people have heard about the dispute but not all know enough to form an opinion or even care to. Based on some anecdotal conversations with some people who have no opinion on Disney good or bad and no real knowledge of this conflict outside of headlines, the one constant is the perception that it seems odd that the Governor of a state would attack the main driver of the state’s economy. That’s how the headlines come across and it’s concerning to a lot of people. They don’t know or care about the 1st amendment case or the original bill that started this but it concerns them that if he does this to FL’s “top company” what happens if he’s running the whole country. He has a lot of damage repair to do if he wants voters to back him who rank the economy as the top issue.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Ever take a peek to see how much Classe was paid over this time?
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
Less than the new guy. And it was the district's decision not the government's clown district forcing it upon them.
He made 262K his first year in 2017. I believe it was 312K for 2022 and I'm sure he was worth every penny!
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I have no idea what a good salary is for a district administrator so hard to say whether he was over or under paid. The bigger point is that the taxpayers of the district controlled who was on the board through an election process and the board decided who to hire and how much to pay them. So if the salary was too high or the person unqualified the taxpayers could and would change that. Flash forward to today and the taxpayers have zero say in who is hired, what they are paid and what their qualifications are. So while $400K may actually be an acceptable salary for someone with years of experience as a district administrator, the taxpayers of the district should have some say in who is hired. Instead the corrupt board hires someone with no experience who is a political ally of the Governor, a friend of the program. That’s one of the many problems with this whole thing.
“Power corrupts; Absolute power corrupts absolutely.“
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
This article mentions DeSantis and Disney and it doesn’t look good for him
apple.news
What GOP Voters Have Told Me Since Trump’s Indictment — The Atlantic
They’re open to an alternative to the former president, but his rivals can’t touch him.
apple.news
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Some relevant quotes from the attached:This article mentions DeSantis and Disney and it doesn’t look good for him
What GOP Voters Have Told Me Since Trump’s Indictment — The Atlantic
They’re open to an alternative to the former president, but his rivals can’t touch him.
Criticism of his culture-war crusade against Disney has come up as well. “Everything about that is why I’m not necessarily a big fan of him,” said Wesley, a Republican from Maryland. “I get the impression that he very much governs to the people on the internet more so than the people in his state.”
Colleen, a Republican from Georgia, called DeSantis’s war with Disney “a little goofy,” saying, “It’s Disney World! Leave it alone.” Informed about DeSantis’s suggestion to build a prison next to the theme park, Ruth—a Michigan Republican—exclaimed, “Why would you do that? That’s terrible.”
As others have pointed out here in the past, the majority of Americans probably have little actual knowledge of the details of the DeSantis vs Disney dispute, but if it’s presented the right way it’s easy to see how a rival could use it against him. The prison line was an attempt to play to the base and show strength but it’s easy to see how most Americans would not support that kind of a statement. It’s easy for DeSantis supporters to say it was just a joke, but most people aren’t following this as closely so when presented with the fact that he did say it the reaction is generally poor.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
I’m kind of shocked that messing with Disney was the line for these people lol