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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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JohnD
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Who's that? If you mean me, if you think I have any connection to the Governor's Office, you would be wrong. I'm an observer only. Besides, I was very clear from the outset this didn't happen in a vacuum. I said any reaction to what happened after that is valid. I'm now just reporting factual info as I know it, such as bill amendment text and when heard by committee.Great, you know one of their cronies must lurk here, now you've told them what to fix
UNCgolf
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Oh no, I wasn't saying it actually would be quick. I was only saying it possibly could be, even though I think that's unlikely.
Disney Analyst
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Chi84
Premium Member
Did they pay these lawyers by the word? I haven't read the Act creating the Board, but @castlecake2.0 the documents now identify both the authority for prohibiting COVID-19 mitigation (safety and sanitation of structures in which private businesses operate) and the enforcement penalties ($250 civil fine for every day of violation). As far as private businesses within the district, the Board states that it has declared that "society is harmed by discrimination based on COVID-19 vaccination status" and generally prohibits requiring documentation certifying vaccination or post-infection recovery or imposing a testing mandate to gain entry into the buildings.
Unlike the other sections applying to property owned by the district, it doesn't prohibit requiring masks or other face coverings.
This is just based on a very cursory reading in an area I'm not too familiar with. If anyone else can weigh in, I would love to know your take.
Unlike the other sections applying to property owned by the district, it doesn't prohibit requiring masks or other face coverings.
This is just based on a very cursory reading in an area I'm not too familiar with. If anyone else can weigh in, I would love to know your take.
lazyboy97o
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Have any of the recent public notices mentioned modifying/revoking a land development agreement? Was Disney notified by mail that the last meeting was the first public hearing
Wonder how this will affect the 24-hr Adventhealth urgent care by 535 and the cast member health building behind Epcot.
Chi84
Premium Member
There’s an exception for health facilities.
JAB
Well-Known Member
Assuming the lawsuit doesn't move fast enough to get resolved before June 1, what are the chances the board backs off the suit if the "retroactively void valid contracts" bill passes?
The board would gain the authority to void the contracts regardless of whether they were properly executed, so the lawsuit would become moot. Would they void the agreements, but still keep trying to get them declared invalid anyway just in case Disney sues to get the law declared unconstitutional?
Or might a judge dismiss the board's suit if the bill passes because the new law makes the suit pointless, but then they could refile if Disney gets the law overturned?
The board would gain the authority to void the contracts regardless of whether they were properly executed, so the lawsuit would become moot. Would they void the agreements, but still keep trying to get them declared invalid anyway just in case Disney sues to get the law declared unconstitutional?
Or might a judge dismiss the board's suit if the bill passes because the new law makes the suit pointless, but then they could refile if Disney gets the law overturned?
I was listening to a local call-in show on the NPR station in Orlando driving to Port Canaveral for a DCL cruise last Saturday. The two lawyers who were guests on the show made the point that while Disney may not have a strong case in some areas, they do when it comes to the right to enjoy use of the property it owns in the manner it deems best. And that the Florida Supreme Court has in prior cases ruled in the affirmative in instances like this.
AEfx
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That really doesn't have anything to do with what I said, though. I never claimed that Disney wasn't a profitable business that many people give money to.
Money is spent even from people who actively dislike them (on both sides of the aisle, and both high-and low-brow culture) for various reasons. For just one example, go to any Star Wars message board, pretty much anywhere - reddit, or the big forums, etc. - and even though the vast majority of posts absolutely roast Disney as a company, those same people still spend hundreds and thousands of dollars each on Star Wars merchandise every year.
Another example is Disney+ - a highly successful venture - but how many people subscribe because they just love the Disney corporation, versus "my kid only shuts up if I play Frozen 2 on repeat every day", or because they gate-keep the content they want (Marvel, Star Wars, etc).
The entire point was - outside of fandoms, people do not have a great deal of affection for Disney as a company in the way some people who have posted seem to think. Like everyone is going to rally around them as poor victims, and change their mind politically or their vote based on this situation. Like "oh no, don't mess with Disney - that's one step too far!" It isn't 1980, or even 2000 any more.
Few other companies or entities jumping in to defend them, because in many ways, it's very hard for a company as profitable and powerful as Disney to be seen as some poor underdog victim. There are a lot of folks out there (especially in Hollywood) who absolutely despise DeSantis, but they are also chuckling out the other sides of their mouth because they don't dislike seeing Disney as a company get roughed up, at all.
And everyone else? Indifference. There is so much going on in the world right now, that what amounts to a spitting match over taxes on a theme park just doesn't hit the radar when in the end, it doesn't actually affect anything outside of Orlando at all.
It is important to note that the makeup of the court has changed dramatically. This new court is remarkably different from previous ones.
Patcheslee
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Looks like they're also worked on confirmation hearings today. Not sure what the step is after Ethics and Elections committee.
That was also mentioned. And a justice just announced their departure, so he's got another seat to fill.
Should be the entire Senate votes.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…you hit a nerve thereI was just making a joke
(but now I am suspicious of you)
(still just joking around)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well they haven’t done it that way in like…forever
TrainsOfDisney
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Disney is one of the top loved brands in the world. That’s a fact.
Smiley/OCD
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Fixed rail then would also apply to the Liberty Belle and JC???
JohnD
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It goes to the floor of the full Senate. Likely to be confirmed on a party line vote.