News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Disstevefan1]

Regardless, the government retaliating against a company because its executives expressed an opinion contrary to their own should concern everyone.

Ironically, the government won't pay for this mistake. the voters, the taxpayers will pay.
And this is not a reversible mistake.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yup... Reedy Creek Improvement District would probably be replaced with County Services Reedy Creek Improvement District

All this fear mongering about people's property taxes is so over the top. Do people even think things through before repeating? Orange County alone is full of special tax districts to do exactly what people are freaking out about here. Funding infrastructure and services. And they have things like the Orange County Flood Control District.. to do the kind of land management RCID was doing, etc.

None of those things are specified. They’re all things that would have to happen independently, within the constraints of state law, and in the other areas impacted by the dissolution of districts. Just because there are some mechanisms that could be used is not a guarantee that they will be used.

 

[LAKid53]

And it’ll be answered the same way it always is. Tourism taxes. An extra point or two on your hotel night. Your Cruise. Your theme park ticket. Your Uber ride or rental car. Your parasailing adventure. Your merengue lessons on South Beach Your campsite. And so much more....

Unfortunately you and I will be paying them too.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Orange and Osceola County property owners weren't taxed for the services Reedy Creek provided to WDW. You are shifting services performed by a special district to county governments that will have to acquire the revenue by way of taxes to provide those services. Unless the 2 counties basically recreate Reedy Creek, but by referendum.

Agreed, no matter what folks say, the taxpayers, many who voted DeSantis in, will pay for this fight between Disney and DeSantis.

 

[monothingie]

When the result is 85% of your jobs are lpw paying “service jobs” as the population grew to 3rd largest in the country…
…maybe it’s not really working, huh?

You’re grasping at straws and you know it.

Surely you can do better than that.

 

[flynnibus]

So you think property taxes will be unaffected by the removal of RCID???
This stinks and it's all over a law that can not be enforced and will probably be overturned and RCID will still be gone.

No, I think the county budget will be impacted and thus there will be some impact to residents. How much so is entirely up to the counties. However the notion that people will suddenly be paying thousands more is absurd and a misapplication of the facts.

 

[flynnibus]

Regardless, the government retaliating against a company because its executives expressed an opinion contrary to their own should concern everyone.

And I like pretzels. Which is about as relevant to my quoted post as that text above.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Unfortunately you and I will be paying them too.

For my line dancing lessons yes. Yes I will. Probably for the Uber ride to the hospital for my sprained ankle after my line dancing lesson as well.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

And I like pretzels. Which is about as relevant to my quoted post as that text above.

It is relevant, because whether people will pay more taxes is not really the issue here.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

You’re grasping at straws

Paper or plastic?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You’re grasping at straws and you know it.

Surely you can do better than that.

I’m not grasping at anything. Tired old dogma brings out equally tired old hyperbole

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Paper or plastic?

I think they outlawed those here? So Mono will have no way to shoot his spitwads at the French Teacher anymore

 

[Kramerica]

When Disney tried to poke the alligator and get deeply involved in politics in opposition to the state that grants these special privileges, You shouldn’t be surprised when they’re revoked. Even after all of this, Florida is still probably far more hospitable for Disney as a company than any other state. I bet they still continue with moving their corporate headquarters there.

 

[Tom P.]

There's a statute that says all residents of that district must vote on dissolution. They're all disney employees.

As has been pointed out, the legislature is trying to get around that. They've included a provision that says, "notwithstanding that earlier statute, the district is dissolved." Whether or not that holds up in court, I don't know.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Florida statute governs HOAs.

Are you suggesting there’s never been a documented case of when a lawyer looking for pub overreaches to “get at” something that doesn’t really apply?

I bet action news would show up to cover that anyway.

 

[World_Showcase_Lover007]

Looks like Chapek poked the wrong bear. The idiot. The political pendulum is indeed swinging back, and swinging back hard.

Next, some lawmakers are talking about ending "Disney's" copyright to Mickey Mouse. Now, for my part, I don't want that to happen. I shudder to think what some people would do to the Mouse. I would be thrilled if Mickey belongs to his parent company for perpetuity. But the lawmakers could absolutely end the copyright, from what I understand, and I don't think there's much that "Disney" could do about it. Perhaps I'm wrong. I hope so. But this is what comes of boneheads who live in a bubble failing to read the room. Chapek should have stuck with his original statement regarding that so-called "Don't Say Gay" bill (yes, I know that's not what the bill is about). But he didn't, and now DeSantis has opened a can of whoopass on him. Maybe something good will come of all this. But frankly, I feel like hunkering down in a bunker right now until this mess blows over...

I see your point about what others might do to Mickey Mouse…but Disney already did the unthinkable by making Mickey into a gross, crass Ren and Stimpy-like character in their most recent animations

 

[flynnibus]

Orange and Osceola County property owners weren't taxed for the services Reedy Creek provided to WDW. You are shifting services performed by a special district to county governments that will have to acquire the revenue by way of taxes to provide those services. Unless the 2 counties basically recreate Reedy Creek, but by referendum.

Which is highly likely and not abnormal at all. By its very nature the whole property of concern is unique and easily identifiable and isolatable as needing special overlays. Huge source of revenue right there that can be targeted without impacting others.

Plus, not only are you shifting services, you are also shifting revenue paid to the district for services to their county equivalent. Disney isn't going to magically get fee free permiting etc.

Disney can also be a good neighbor and reduce the county burden through it's own funded initiatives (fire, police, etc).

I mean.. we know RCID's operating budget... we have the napkin numbers to work with. No individual tax payer is going to be paying thousands more per year because RCID wound down elsewhere.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As has been pointed out, the legislature is trying to get around that. They've included a provision that says, "notwithstanding that earlier statute, the district is dissolved." Whether or not that holds up in court, I don't know.

“Case dismissed “

You can take that one straight to the Supremes…the idea that any would vote to void a 60 year old arrangement that’s profited both a large voting block and one of the most recognizable, icon American public companies on the Dow 30…

…is as fantasyland as a ride on Mine Train. They’d never do it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I see your point about what others might do to Mickey Mouse…but Disney already did the unthinkable by making Mickey into a gross, crass Ren and Stimpy-like character in their most recent animations

Really? Mickey toons?

Don’t choke on those pearls

 

[flynnibus]

None of those things are specified. They’re all things that would have to happen independently, within the constraints of state law, and in the other areas impacted by the dissolution of districts.

Specified by what? We're talking about what happens in the wake of this.

Just because there are some mechanisms that could be used is not a guarantee that they will be used.

uhh... yeah, it's called the future. I haven't been there. But I do know that people saying 'it will all come from your property taxes' are pretty much guaranteed to be wrong. The counties aren't incentivized to punish everyone to help Disney - they are going to be the flip of that.