News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[tissandtully]

Everytime Chairman Garcia talks, he shows how big a fool he is and how little he actually knows. Even the Florida Legislature knows how bad the Department of Agriculture was in inspecting rides and passed a new law. However Garcia complemented the Department for the great job they had done in the state. Yes, that incompetance directly lead to the death of a 15 year old and forced the new legislation. Garcia now has to admit he was wrong about how good the Department was or say the legislation is wrong. In either case he is a total fool and must go. I like many others here pay his salary with our property taxes. This is not political since he is not elected by the property owners. His speaking at every CFTOD meeting proves how ignorant he is. One last thing, the Govenors fear that if he had just abolished RCID that the counties would have created it by themselves just is another example and proof that this is designed to harm Disney. The two counties and their residents are the ones who should have a say in over seeing RCID not someone 250 miles away. Again this is not political and as a former supporter of DeSantis i owe everyone an apology for my ignorant belief that he was the better choice. I can't support anyone who is against the BILL OF RIGHTS.

Hopefully more people see the light like you have

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Seems like a HUGE stretch of their authority to dictate to a landowner how to manage their property.
From what I've seen, Disney and RCID have built and maintained some of the best roads, waterways and infrastructure in the state, next to maybe some of the high-priced exclusive beach communities in Miami and West Palm.

You know why?
Because WED identified they had to do it in 1964…

…and funny how it played

 

[DavidDL]

“What Americans writ large are realizing is this is our moment.” Roberts said, commenting on the way DeSantis seems to be leading the charge against the left’s cultural agenda. “This is our moment to demand that our politicians use the power they have. This is the moment for us to demand of companies, whether they’re Google, or Facebook, or Disney, that you listen to us, rather than ram down our throats and into our own families all of the garbage that you’ve been pushing on us. This is our time to demand that you do what we say. And it’s glorious.”

These people realize that if they don't like what Disney is doing that they can visit somewhere else or watch something else, right? Or create and share their own content elsewhere?

I mean, clearly if the "majority" or "will" of the supposed people is tired of companies "ramming" concepts like equality and fair treatment for all down their throats then there must be a massive, untapped market out there just waiting to shower them with their money, right?

..right?

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

they can visit somewhere else or watch something else, right? Or create and share their own content elsewhere?

Yeah... what did Universal do? Or Legoland? Busch Gardens never wronged us!

 

[DCBaker]

Update on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District lawsuit.

 

[tissandtully]

Update on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District lawsuit.

Is this normal procedure or is Disney acknowledging the state voided the development agreements?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Is this normal procedure or is Disney acknowledging the state voided the development agreements?

You can't have two bodies fighting over who declares the contract with the old RCID board annulled.

Unless you declare double secret annulment.

 

[Brian]

Is this normal procedure or is Disney acknowledging the state voided the development agreements?

I think we'd have to read their entire filing to make that determination, though the argument does seem rather mutually exclusive on its face.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Update on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District lawsuit.

This motion is not yet showing on the Clerk of Court’s website. It seems like an odd strategy as it treats the state law as valid. Disney has essentially opened the door for the District to make changes and start doing things with their property.

 

[Chi84]

This motion is not yet showing on the Clerk of Court’s website. It seems like an odd strategy as it treats the state law as valid. Disney has essentially opened the door for the District to make changes and start doing things with their property.

I think you would have to read the filing to make that determination. Parties can advance conflicting theories to some extent.

 

[mkt]

I think you would have to read the filing to make that determination. Parties can advance conflicting theories to some extent.

It could just be that they want to win in federal court, which could seemingly make any verdict in state court irrelevant.

 

[Brian]

Disney Asks Florida Court To Toss Lawsuit Brought By Ron DeSantis’s Handpicked Board Over Walt Disney World Jurisdiction

The Walt Disney Co. is asking a judge to dismiss or stay a state lawsuit brought by the special district that oversees its Florida resort property. In a motion filed in Florida state court in Orange County (read it here), Disney called the lawsuit “moot,” also claimed that state law requires...

deadline.com

Here is the motion to dismiss, courtesy of Deadline.

 

[Surferboy567]

Update on the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District lawsuit.

How does this process work for the uninitiated?

 

[Brian]

Here is the motion to dismiss, courtesy of Deadline.

As to Disney's argument about the contract, and whether or not the legislative action was valid, see this quote from their motion from page eight:

Dismissal is required here. This is an action by a state board raising questions about the validity of Contracts that are already void and unenforceable by unequivocal legislative fiat.

and further on page nine:

No matter how this Court answers them, CFTOD will not comply with the Contracts because it legally cannot: Senate Bill 1604 provides, without qualification, that CFTOD “is precluded from complying with the terms of” the Contracts.

By rendering any opinion by this Court legally irrelevant, the new statute has deprived this Court of jurisdiction to resolve this case.

 

[Brian]

How does this process work for the uninitiated?

The judge will now consider Disney's motion to dismiss the lawsuit filed by the CFTOD against them in state court over the contract, and if the CFTOD wishes to file any motions to the contrary, those will be considered as well.

In other words, the judge will now have to decide whether to agree with Disney's logic as to why the lawsuit cannot stand, and decide if it should be thrown out, paused (pending the outcome of the federal case), or allowed to proceed for the time being.

 

[Chi84]

I don’t see how they wouldn’t at least get a stay.

 

[JAB]

The judge will now consider Disney's motion to dismiss the lawsuit filed by the CFTOD against them in state court over the contract, and if the CFTOD wishes to file any motions to the contrary, those will be considered as well.

In other words, the judge will now have to decide whether to agree with Disney's logic as to why the lawsuit cannot stand, and decide if it should be thrown out, paused (pending the outcome of the federal case), or allowed to proceed for the time being.

I can't think of why it might be paused vs. dismissed. If Disney wins the federal case, then then the contracts will have already been declared valid, and if Disney loses, 1604 makes the contracts unenforceable. So in either case, CFTOD's suit is moot, so there wouldn't be a benefit to waiting on the outcome of the federal case.

 

[Brian]

I can't think of why it might be paused vs. dismissed. If Disney wins the federal case, then then the contracts will have already been declared valid, and if Disney loses, 1604 makes the contracts unenforceable. So in either case, CFTOD's suit is moot, so there wouldn't be a benefit to waiting on the outcome of the federal case.

I agree, I'm just referencing Disney's secondary ask, should the judge decline to dismiss.

 

[Vacationeer]

If Federal Court finds for Disney Florida's suit is moot. Hearing the Constitutional issues in the Federal suit will take priority because the suits overlap and the matter involves the Contracts Clause, Takings and the First Amendment.

The suits aren't the same but as Disney said in today's motion both suits “Stem from the same nucleus of facts".

Say what you like but Iger is the alpha Dog here.

And sometimes right makes might.

 

[Chi84]

I agree, I'm just referencing Disney's secondary ask, should the judge decline to dismiss.

And it’s always sensible to wait until all the pleadings are filed because issues can change or be sharpened by the other party’s position.

One thing I’ve found is that CFTOD’s pleadings are painful to read when measured against the elegant simplicity of Disney’s. Disney’s team excels at tying their specific arguments to general principles of law. Courts appreciate the effort.