News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[LAKid53]

From where to where? I believe you, I just can't picture it.

Nobody lives West of property. I-4, even with traffic, is going to be your most direct route for anything between ChampionsGate and Doctor Phillips. Western Way to Buena Vista Drive might be faster than 192 but what's over there on the Western Way side?

An entire area called Horizons West.

 

[GoofGoof]

Nobody has ever gone broke betting on the stupidity of the American voter.

Considering the crowd he’s aiming to please….I retract my question

 

[Vacationeer]

More incomprehensible flailing that, on the surface, makes them look ignorant or incompetent. If they win at the Federal level, a state suit is unnecessary, and if they lose at the federal level, a state suit is moot, so what's their play here?

• They somehow genuinely think that a win at the state level has some bearing on the outcome regardless of the federal case
• They think that if they get a crony state judge to rush through a judgement in their favor before the federal case is heard, it gives them more leverage
• They're panicking and just throwing everything they can at the wall, even if they know it won't work.
• It's more of the governor's table-banging tantrum
• It's all just political theater (or "theatre" for the Brits, Canucks, & Aussies)
• Some combination of the above

• To appease the people who want to believe the state and state appointed board is doing nothing wrong.

From that angle, they would’ve wondered why Ron and his crew are just standing there letting themselves get sued? Could’ve even provoked them into looking further into the details, oh the horror. Easiest strategy is to slap back a suit to appease these folks wanting to trust the state‘s not doing anything wrong.

 

[LAKid53]

The residents and cities which are constitutionally guaranteed things like home rule.

The Legislature has been chipping away at Home Rules Power Act for years. With the courts assent.

 

[flynnibus]

This is a classic he who smelled it dealt it defense

Does he really think people are that dumb? He said he didn’t know the district was filing the lawsuit today. Ok….yeah sure.

WE THE PEOPLE!!

Just keep repeating it...

 

[mkt]

From where to where? I believe you, I just can't picture it.

Nobody lives West of property. I-4, even with traffic, is going to be your most direct route for anything between ChampionsGate and Doctor Phillips. Western Way to Buena Vista Drive might be faster than 192 but what's over there on the Western Way side?

They developed that area. It's called Horizons West/Hamlin, and it's west of WDW right up until the lake county line, and north until SR50ish.

It's all either City of Winter Garden or unincorporated Orange County. To get to I4 from that area, the quickest toll-free way is through Disney property

 

[Andrew C]

Considering the crowd he’s aiming to please….I retract my question

I am honestly not sure I know who he is aiming to please at this point...even me who has concerns about a few social issues out there and don't align with Disney over their response to the particular legislation they called out, well he's not pleasing me...

 

[LAKid53]

From parts of West Orange County, the fastest way to the airport is through WDW.

That's how my gps takes me

 

[mkt]

That's how my gps takes me

We're a little further north, so while it's an option, fastest for us is Turnpike to 528.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That's how my gps takes me

Not 429?

 

[LAKid53]

They developed that area. It's called Horizons West/Hamlin, and it's west of WDW right up until the lake county line, and north until SR50ish.

It's all either City of Winter Garden or unincorporated Orange County. To get to I4 from that area, the quickest toll-free way is through Disney property

As I keep saying, my townhouse is 200 yards from the western border of Reedy Creek on Hertzog. My weather notices come from Reedy Creek.

 

[LAKid53]

We're a little further north, so while it's an option, fastest for us is Turnpike to 528.

Driving to the Port 2 Fridays ago, my GPS took me through property, rather than 439 to the Turnpike South to 528.

 

[LAKid53]

Not 429?

Not this trip

 

[mkt]

Not 429?

429 doesn't go to the airport. That'd be 429 to Turnpike to 528 or 429 to I4 to 528. Which involves I4 or turnpike traffic through a major tourist area.

But cut through Disney property, and you get take Western Way to Buena Vista drive to Epcot Center Way/536 to the 417, which is more roads, but is a more direct route and surprisingly a more relaxed drive.

 

[mkt]

As I keep saying, my townhouse is 200 yards from the western border of Reedy Creek on Hertzog. My weather notices come from Reedy Creek.

I know that area reasonably well and drive in it almost daily.

We wanted to live there, but we can't justify paying $700k for what cost $200k a year prior, nor insuring it.

 

[WDWHero]

I must have missed the RCID referendum on my ballot in 2022.

 

[mkt]

I must have missed the RCID referendum on my ballot in 2022.

Apparently everyone missed it

 

[Disstevefan1]

Universal has the same customer base as Disney. They have a higher level of locals, but they don’t pay the bills visiting on an AP. The tourists they depend on are the same tourists visiting WDW. Any drop in tourism hurts them just as much. It’s a silly fanboy argument that people only choose between Universal and Disney so bad for Disney means good for Universal. The reality is bad for Disney means bad for every other business in FL.

I can't speak for the fanboys, personally, I am a fan of WDW, Universal and Seaworld and want none to fail; I want all of them work to be better; and it's the tourist who wins.

My commentary was really that Universal is able to focus on guest experience better while TWDC need to focus elsewhere.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I can't speak for the fanboys, personally, I am a fan of WDW, Universal and Seaworld and want none to fail; I want all of them work to be better; and it's the tourist who wins.

My commentary was really that Universal is able to focus on guest experience better while TWDC need to focus elsewhere.

The people who work on guest experience (operations managers) are not impacted by this lawsuit. Unless they all became lawyers overnight?

 

[WDWHero]

Universal has the same customer base as Disney. They have a higher level of locals, but they don’t pay the bills visiting on an AP. The tourists they depend on are the same tourists visiting WDW. Any drop in tourism hurts them just as much. It’s a silly fanboy argument that people only choose between Universal and Disney so bad for Disney means good for Universal. The reality is bad for Disney means bad for every other business in FL.

I love Universal, I just only have time for one AP with kids in school