Politely my example is simply saying “just stay out of politics to avoid business problems.” You are correct Disney exercised their right to speak against the state, and their right to back legislatures against the majority’s agenda…which turned out to be a horrible business decision. While I wouldn’t want to invest in anything against my principles, I only buy stocks for profit. I donate to activism, don’t invest in it.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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peter11435
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by that standard everyone from RCID down through the Everglades would need to be notified.
It would be a stretch to consider those living in Dade City would be impacted. I'm 200 yards from RCID.
TrainsOfDisney
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Who have you invested in? And last I checked Disney is still very much profitable.
If I could name 1 or 100, which I cannot, it doesn’t change the premise it’s smart business to avoid sensitive political land mines. Disney chose to back opposing legislatures, and they are reaping what they have sown. I feel like the topic is going in endless circles based on the premise of Disney good, Governor bad. Or vice versa. If your premise is Disney could not avoid the scenario, I politely disagree.
lazyboy97o
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Why haven’t they? And what would be the potential harm?
That’s without getting into the issues of the state executive branch now meddling with local legislative issues.
JAB
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Not sure what you mean. Why does the mailing deadline matter if they didn't mail the notices? I'm not saying they didn't, just considering "if."
James Alucobond
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So ... you sow protected speech in defense of your employees and reap unlawful government retaliation? Not sure that's how it's supposed to work, and I've no idea how anyone could support it. I suppose if your tax assessor catches wind of your complaints about how much you pay in taxes here, you'll be reaping what you've sown when he triples your rate.
lazyboy97o
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Look at a map of the Florida water management districts. The South Florida Water Management District noodles up the middle of the state for a reason, because systems like Reedy Creek are part of the Everglades hydrological system.
Patcheslee
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So they get rid of the planning board, elect themselves, then: appoint a single person to research and recommend an urban planning firm. The idea of 2 board members was tossed because... the meetings between them would have to be public.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
You said property owners close enough to be environmentally impacted. People living in Dade county are environmentally impacted by development in the district. That’s why the SMWMD looks like this.
Chi84
Premium Member
What do you mean they have to pay for it? You think the government has a right to punish people for taking moral positions the government doesn’t like?I cannot. I also can’t name a single person who has never drunk Coke, eaten bacon, or stepped in a big pile of. But I know it’s best to avoid it.
You believe Disney did what they think is moral, but not what the formidable opposing side thought was moral. (Including me. ) So again, if they think their strategy was the best way to stand up, they now have to pay for it. It appears many Disney executives regret this stand.
James Alucobond
Well-Known Member
Again, their customers will hold them accountable if they find their moral stance questionable. The government cannot retaliate in this way in response, nor should you want them to. I doubt you will think it fair to pay if or when the moral caprices of the government swing in the opposite direction.
peter11435
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Brian
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Because targeting ~75% of corporate America would be an awfully tall order. Also, WDW is a Florida institution. Going after Target wouldn't resonate as much with the base.
ETA: Disney as a brand is also an American institution in its own right.
lazyboy97o
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I think it’d be a pretty week argument to claim that a mailed notice, and a mailed notice alone, is what would have stirred action. Not other public notices. Not national news coverage. Just that one piece of mail is what would have made you act in a timely manner.
These disputes are usually “You didn’t tell me you were changing something.” This is, “You didn’t tell me things were staying the same” and as time moves forward it becomes “You didn’t tell me things were staying the same and even after I found out I still waited a much longer time than the notice provided to get around to voice my objection to things staying the same.”
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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My family is OUT of this Political mess. No more WDW investment. No DVC, no AP.
Up to you, what you wish to do...
If we return? RACK - yearly 30% discount (REAL rack). But we are no longer parking Money there.
Up to you, what you wish to do...
If we return? RACK - yearly 30% discount (REAL rack). But we are no longer parking Money there.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I don’t think there is an argument that because the agreement doesn’t cause change that it no longer needs the same notice.
The notice is for an agreement period - not it’s contents
lazyboy97o
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It’s amazing how this keeps getting missed. Disney could have advocated for the most horrible things. They could have said pedophilia and murder should be legal and it would be protected. They could have said they support a violent revolution against the government complete with a Reign of Terror and it would have been protected. The whole point of freedom of speech is that you can say pretty much anything, even vile and despicable things.
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Tha Realest
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the legal counsel to the successors to the RCID, which would presumptively have ready access to previous communications, are asserting that notices weren’t provided to the affected property owners.