News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

Can residents refuse to dissolve it?

I would think the various impacted counties might also have grounds to sue. They are the ones being saddled with financing these districts.

 

[SpectroMagician]

Doing this is not prohibited by the law.

Yes it is.

 

[mkt]

Wait you want me to explain what a bill being constitutional means? Laws are constitutional when it is a law passed through the state legislature, signed by the governor, and is also not outlawed by either the US or State Constitution.

Legislatures pass laws that are unconstitutional ALL THE TIME.

Here you go, read away: https://constitution.congress.gov/resources/unconstitutional-laws/

 

[Prince-1]

Wait you want me to explain what a bill being constitutional means? Laws are constitutional when it is a law passed through the state legislature, signed by the governor, and is also not outlawed by either the US or State Constitution.


Your arguments about being vague I said do not apply because it is based on approved curriculum. So it is constitutional because it was passed legally.

Here, this might help you.

 

[mkt]

Q has entered the chat….

Guess the pizza place closed early.

 

[SpectroMagician]

Legislatures pass laws that are unconstitutional ALL THE TIME.

Here you go, read away: https://constitution.congress.gov/resources/unconstitutional-laws/

Yes and then it is up to the party suing to prove that it is unconstitutional. Your argument as to why I said is false based on the curriculum standards.

You have not come up with another reason. So therefore it hinges on if my reasoning or yours is correct. We will find out in the courts and it will likely go to the supreme court where I have a good feeling it will stand.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes it is.

No, it does not. Amendments to prohibit discussion of sexual activities were rejected.

 

[mkt]

Yes and then it is up to the party suing to prove that it is unconstitutional.

And that's what they're presently doing.

And in case you haven't been paying attention, this won't be the first culture war law that will be struck down as unconstitutional.

 

[LAKid53]

Doing this is not prohibited by the law.

That it's not.

 

[SpectroMagician]

No, it does not. Amendments to prohibit discussion of sexual activities were rejected.

Can you give a link to a source on this? This is the first I have ever heard about this.

 

[Figgy1]

Guess the pizza place closed early.

Only the one without an actual basement

 

[durangojim]

So, I hear resort pool hopping is allowed now.

 

[DisneyDelirious]

IOU a drink in R&C

Deal Figgy!

 

[Prince-1]

So, I hear resort pool hopping is allowed now.

Uh,this thread is on Reedy Creek so please stay on topic like everyone else is doing.

Edit to add I think it’s also on dog groomers as well.

 

[automation85]

Here it is below. Hmm as someone who supports banning classroom instruction on it I would say your last comment makes zero sense at all. I think the people doing drag queen story hour with kids and changing "gay" through the halls of schools are probably the ones who are a little obsessed with it.

Sorry, what the what now. Go to bed. Your curfew was an hour ago.

 

[Figgy1]

Deal Figgy!

DEAL! and then you can get the Grey Goose slushies at Les Vins

 

[SpectroMagician]

The insinuations behind “groomer” are very clear, very intentional, very bigoted, and not very subtle. They continue a long, long history of homophobia stretching into the 1970s and beyond. Here’s a hint - look into Anita Bryant, in Florida, in 1977. This is an old, sick song, but it’s more openly sung at high levels then ever before. It’s hate.

Bigoted? I guess being bigoted against people grooming children is something I would be proud of being.

But it has literally nothing to do with a persons sexual orientation. It has to do with them wanting to talk to kids about sex.

 

[LAKid53]

Can you give a link to a source on this? This is the first I have ever heard about this.

The bill tracking itself, amendments thereto both rejected and passed.

Go for it.

House Bill 1557 (2022) - The Florida Senate

www.flsenate.gov

 

[the_rich]

I have asked this multiple times, in multiple threads, over multiple months - please link me to reputable LEGAL analysis (NOT political punditry) that provides a close reading of the bill and argues it is well-written and not designed to exert a broad chilling effect. I would like to read it.

Doesn't exist. They pass laws like this to pander. They know it won't stand up to legal challenges but it satisfies the base. Same thing with all of the abortion laws being passed.(though I will say roe v wade is in jeopardy now.)

 

[GimpYancIent]

I thought everyone would be most interested in the economic impact of this legislation (as in money / taxes) but I see the threads discussion has meandered off into the swamps.
" According to Orange County Tax Collector Scott Randolph. He added that there would be zero fiscal gain for the county. “If that district goes away, it is zero revenue, but they take on all the debt and all the obligation,” Randolph said that financial obligation is about $105 million a year to operate services in Reedy Creek. For example, the district runs its own fire department, sewer services and handles all the road maintenance. Additionally, Randolph said the county would also be taking on, potentially, $1 billion to $2 billion in bond debt. If the county is absorbing additional costs from Reedy Creek, Randolph said the money is going to have to come from somewhere. “If Reedy Creek is dissolved, my guess would be Orange County would have to raise property taxes 15 to 20%; now that’s not your whole tax bill, right, because your tax bill involves school and other things, but your Orange County government portion of your tax bill will probably have to go up 15 to 20% to take on that cost,” he said."