TalkingHead
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What difference would it have made to attempt in courts to block the state’s wrestling away control over a 1A issue?
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lazyboy97o
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It’s fallacy of appeasement. Yes, they thought acquiescing would make it go away. Even now, they’re not speaking out hoping it’ll help. Even if the present “fight” stalls out, it is now known that Disney is an easy target for attack as long as you think it out a bit more.
They were forthright.
They literally followed the notification laws and did this all out in the open. They advertised the meetings where the agreement was discussed/approved.
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Chi84
Premium Member
Legal decisions like when to take action and what action to take are uniquely particular to circumstances that we may not be completely familiar with. Disney did what it wanted to do and so far it seems to be working just fine. It's not like you have to file a lawsuit the moment something affects you - there's plenty of time for Disney to act.
peter11435
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It’s almost as if their speech has been chilled….
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Point is it’s depicted by those mouthpieces as shifty because it wasn’t done with Disney publicly announcing its moves. Good gamesmanship, bad politics.
All I’m asking is why didn’t they take this to court instead of playing coy?
Chip Chipperson
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Yep, that all seems like BS to try to win over the firefighters and EMS and anyone who supports them getting raises. "If they don't get a raise, it's Disney's fault!"It seems like maybe a case of bad reporting. I don’t know what to take as the so called expert‘s opinion and what’s added by the writer.
If the legal battle ends in the state’s favor, DeSantis promises public safety pay raises and a reassessment of property value to potentially have the company pay more in taxes in Orange and Osceola counties. Kramer predicts it will be a tough case for Disney to win.
This is not a shown as a quote from Kramer so hard to say if he said it or not. So if this entire statement actually came from Kramer he’s not very credible. No legal battle is necessary to give pay raises to RCID EMS. The district controls that with or without the development agreement in place and the idea that the district somehow controls the tax assessment for the counties is also a fairytale. The governor literally made that up. So if this expert is actually saying he believes this will happen if Disney loses a hypothetical lawsuit then he’s not very credible. He also doesn’t specify what case will be tough for Disney to win.
Legal analyst explains challenges with nullifying Reedy Creek agreement
"It always depended on the state of Florida playing ball with Disney," legal analyst Steven Kramer said.www.wesh.com
flynnibus
Premium Member
But one might argue the limitations on RCID, impacted the other RCID constituents because the limitations on RCID's ability to do something on behalf of other RCID constituents.
Because court takes time and is costly. They were generally open to seeing what DeSantis was going to propose. Maybe DeSantis would have proposed something they could live with? Filing a suit immediately creates nothing but more bad blood. So they kept quiet to see what DeSantis and the GOP legislature would do. When it was clear they had no desire to work with Disney and wanted control to leverage Disney, the company made the moves they made.
. Disney announced their moves publicly. It was all done out in the open. It wasn't gamesmanship or whatever. They literally followed the law, held open meetings, etc.
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GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Dang this thread is moving faster than Disney price increases
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
They have not been forthright in just working to put to a stop to this. They thought if they cowered and walked away, even if they did grab some of their toys, it would go away.
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GoofGoof
Premium Member
That’s fair, but the development agreement didn’t really change anything. There’s nothing in that agreement that implies Disney will or can do anything other than build theme parks and resorts. Maybe an increase in traffic or sight line issues but since we are talking about businesses and not residential homes for the most part I’d think that’s less relevant.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
These objectives were stated at the very beginning. Thinking otherwise was denial as part of the futile attempt to appease.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I never said it did.
peter11435
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GoofGoof
Premium Member
There is no guarantee Disney would win a first amendment case but it would 100% for sure have been a complete goat rodeo and exactly what the Governor wanted. I’m sure Disney considered it along with several other options and decided on this plan instead. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn’t. Right now Disney is not in much different position than they were before this started and they could always still pursue other options as well.
DisneyDebRob
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I think we are all missing the point of how cool a coaster would be going in and around a prison.
( this is sarcasm and not meant to be a endorsement..before people start hammering me over the head)
( this is sarcasm and not meant to be a endorsement..before people start hammering me over the head)
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
You know very well that there were more issues than just free speech.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It was a bad law by the legislature. And it was a mistake to comment by Disney. And it was wrong for the Governor to retaliate. But I don't like special districts controlled by private parties as a matter of principle. And the five member board appointed by the governor is a joke.
I have no cognitive dissonance holding those positions simultaneously.
