Except many of those roads are public, not private. So, as a taxpayer in Orange County, I appreciate TWDC paying an assessment to RCID to maintain roads my taxes would normally pay for.
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Except many of those roads are public, not private. So, as a taxpayer in Orange County, I appreciate TWDC paying an assessment to RCID to maintain roads my taxes would normally pay for.
CentralFLlife
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Wait, you’re saying public transport shouldn’t be publicly funded?
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CaptainAmerica
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Again, I'm not saying the arrangement was illegal. I'm saying I don't like it.
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Figgy1
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That's not true. Several times when staying off site it was easier to use RCID roads to get elsewhere in the area to avoid traffic. The roads are open to the public not just those visiting Disney
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Vacationeer
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I get what you’re saying and wouldn’t necessarily like that either. But I haven’t really seen anything proving Disney’s interest with RCID was for anything but control, not financial motives. WDW wanted to maintain their standards and for that they were willing to pay a premium. Yes maybe it helped expedite and keep things more efficient in the long game, but where were they not paying their share or trying to load it off on someone else? Municipal bonds, yes. For municipal things, infrastructure. I don’t see shirking financial responsibility in any of this.
peter11435
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Except it absolutely is for public use. Disney is not the only entity that benefits from that infrastructure.
MrPromey
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I'm pretty sure kong was being sarcastic - especially that part about being the "only special district in the entire universe".
I didn't say Disney paid any more or less in taxes, the analogy was asking if you would like it if your neighbor got a special break on taxes for life... in this instance what Disney got may not have amount to anything in lower taxes but it did provide them at the very least with a special pass on normal permits and other things that would take any other competitor much longer because they weren't going to be dealing with a oversight board that was really run by themselves.
lazyboy97o
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Maybe Google sarcasm?
Yet again, I never said Disney paid less in taxes they simply get special red carpet treatment from their own corporate run government oversight board. I used taxes as an example that the poster might understand as most people are familiar with paying taxes but few have to ever deal with a local government when seeking permits and such.
The state routinely purchases private lands to set aside for conservation. That's one of the functions of the Division of State Lands within DEP, to recommend the purchase of land for various purposes. The governor and cabinet approved the acquisition of 3500 acres back in January.
lazyboy97o
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You’ve just used another bad example. There is no special pass on normal permits, whatever those are. It’s the same type of process and is often considered the most onerous of the local area.
And again, the district was enforcing a building code before local governments were required to do so.
For a corporation time is very valuable. Having worked in a corporation that had to deal with multiple government entities for permits on pipelines we built, I can assure you that having a special entity that fast tracks every permit you need is very valuable. I've watch large construction teams sit around for weeks at a time simply because an inspector didn't show up to sign on what had been done.
And if you don't think time is money you don't understand how corporation determine the return on their investments. Disney has gained millions by having expedited services. If Disney didn't put a significant value on the way things were they wouldn't have put up such a fight to stop the state from taking it over.
lazyboy97o
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And they still can! The District cannot but private electric companies like Reedy Creek Energy Services still can.
That is patently incorrect. TWDC pays property taxes to the 2 counties the property it owns resides in, an assessment to RCID and corporate income tax to the State of Florida.
GoofGoof
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Just like the street I live on. It was obviously constructed to benefit the developer who built the houses and continues to benefit the home owners in the neighborhood but ultimately is a public road open to anyone and maintained using municipal funds that come from tax dollars.
I said, "other than expedited permitting"... I fully recognize that for a corporation, time is money.
Vacationeer
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Actually…
ECONOMIC IMPACT
Walt Disney World Resort is a significant contributor to the economic well-being and vitality of Central Florida. Walt Disney World Resort has contributed $780.3 million in total state and local taxes paid and collected for FY2021.
$780 million in 2021 alone.
You are clueless. How many corporations and individual have to get a permit in any of the neighboring areas? thousands. Now compare that to the number in Reedy Creek, it is a drop in the bucket. So if you don't think being able to bypass the normal line that makes the DMV look fast, and instead just having your own private permitting group doesn't save time you are clueless. The special pass isn't not getting a permit it is getting one from a agency that exist for your own use only. Universal doesn't have its own permitting agency at their beck and call, only Disney has had that advantage.