News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Cliff]

I don't see it that way.
60% of Florida voters did not pick a fight with TWDC.
60% of Florida voters did not dissolve RCID.

The governors office tracks it's public opinion reactions constantly. I suspect the research data his office sees gives him the clear resolve to keep doing what he is doing. Even the Florida legislature easily passed the bill last year that Disney were ardently against. Each legislator also has their finger on the pulse of their individual voters too.

They would not be sailing in these political waters if they did not feel the political wind behind them.

 

[tissandtully]

Some of you folks are drinking way too much Disney Kool-Aid.

We found Ronald McDonald's account

 

[tissandtully]

The governors office tracks it's public opinion reactions constantly. I suspect the research data his office see gives him the resolve to keep doing what he is doing. Even the Florida legislature easily passed the bill last year that Disney were ardently against. Each legislator also has their finger on the pulse of their individual voters too.

They would not be sailing in these political waters if they did not feel the political wind behind them.

No, they look at Twitter and people who haven't blocked them. It's a political bubble, echo chamber, whatever you want to call it. You can see this when Ronnie D ever gets challenged on anything, deer in headlights. The dem turnout was also very bad because the candidate was bad cause Florida Dems have no idea what they are doing, so sorry I don't take voting numbers = popularity.

Also using congressional districts as proof of anything is hilarious because they've been gerrymandered to hell, especially in Florida. My CD 13, went from strong blue to red, this is a district that includes St. Petersburg, which is like one of the most liberal cities in Florida.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The governors office tracks it's public opinion reactions constantly. I suspect the research data his office see gives him the resolve to keep doing what he is doing. Even the Florida legislature easily passed the bill last year that Disney were ardently against. Each legislator also has their finger on the pulse of their individual voters too.

They would not be sailing in these political waters if they did not feel the political wind behind them.

I hear you. but this mess simply can't be blamed on 60 percent of the Florida voters.

This mess is ALL RonnyBaby's. The buck stops with RonnyBaby good or bad.

 

[ParentsOf4]

My guess is that it's Disney's strategy to get the state to sue.

If I understand correctly, the federal courts can't get involved when a citizen sues a state, under the 11th Amendment (cite)

Buf if the state sues, it's the plantiff and the state waives its right to immunity under the 11th Amendment.

So if the state sues, Disney can move the suits to the federal level. The federal courts would likely look at all of this much, much differently.

When it comes to contracts, Disney's federal rights are protected by Article I, Section 10, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.​

This is commonly known as the Contract Clause.

An attempt by the State of Florida to interfere with the contract between the old RCID and WDW ("Walt Disney Parks and Resorts U.S., Inc." is listed as the Master Developer in the Chapter 163 Development Agreement) would likely end up in federal court.

In drafting this development agreement, I'm sure Disney's attorneys recognized that they have a better chance of winning in federal courts.

 

[peter11435]

I don’t need to go back and read every single thing that was posted by random people who don’t give up their true identity.

You don’t need to read posts here. Read the original 1967 Reedy Creek Charter. Read the Supreme Court decision from 1968. Read the 2004 legislature report on the district. There’s plenty of official documentation from valid sources that will educate you and prove everything you’ve said wrong.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

So basically, you won't read the contents of the linked legal and court documents that conflict with what you want to believe? I know, reading is hard sometimes.

At least we know his legal name is in fact Elvis Mickey.

 

[GrumpyFan]

At least we know his legal name is in fact Elvis Mickey.

You must have read his bio.
Pardon me, "their" bio. I just assumed a name like "Elvis Mickey" was a male. Shame on me.
They are clearly a mouse who is also an Elvis fan.

 

[GoofGoof]

Even the 14th?

He only has 10 fingers to count on so probably hasn’t gotten that far

 

[tissandtully]

You don’t need to read posts here. Read the original 1967 Reedy Creek Charter. Read the Supreme Court decision from 1968. Read the 2004 legislature report on the district. There’s plenty of official documentation from valid sources that will educate you and prove everything you’ve said wrong.

Look at you with facts and sources. What do you think this is, a discussion with reasonable people?

 

[Disstevefan1]

He only has 10 fingers to count on so probably hasn’t gotten that far

Don't pick on RonnyBaby, he's got toes too ya know!

 

[Disney Glimpses]

You cannot make this stuff up.

 

[tissandtully]

You cannot make this stuff up.

Ugh, the Buc-ee's stuff there hurts my soul.

 

[Prince-1]

I don’t need to go back and read every single thing that was posted by random people who don’t give up their true identity.

Says the guy named ElvisMickey.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Ugh, the Buc-ee's stuff there hurts my soul.

Please don't pick on Buc-ee's.

It's the theme park of gas stations.

 

[tissandtully]

Please don't pick on Buc-ee's.

It's the theme park of gas stations.

I'm not. I love Buc-ee's, but unfortunately the beaver wears a red hat for a reason :/

They do redeem themselves by offering employees actual really good wages and benefits. Can't say that about a lot of republican owned businesses.

 

[Disney Analyst]

For those stating "Disney should stay out of politics", please include in your statement FPL, Big Sugar, Comcast, Publix, Amazon and every other major corporation with a presence in the state that sends hundreds of lobbyists to Tallahassee during this time of the year. To influence (actually write) legislators on legislation beneficial to their clients.

Yeah. Let’s see the same energy towards the NRA. I mean if they really want Disney out of politics, that must mean they want all big money out of politics, right?

 

[tissandtully]

Says the guy named ElvisMickey.

We never know, it could actually be the real Elvis.

 

[peter11435]

Yeah. Let’s see the same energy towards the NRA. I mean if they really want Disney out of politics, that must mean they want all big money out of politics, right?

Yeah… it’s just like all the people in this thread that believe corporations should stay out of politics. If you think that a corporation such as Disney should stay out of politics then all of those same reasons should apply to organizations like the NRA also.

 

[Prince-1]

We never know, it could actually be the real Elvis.

The fat, sweaty, bloated one from Vegas? I’ll have to read his bio and see.