News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

lazyboy97o

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Okay. One last time. That is more than disagreeing but promising to actively use your resources to oppose the State of Florida - the very state that created the RCID legislation to begin with. Legislators were like, "WTH?" Anyway, this is where we are now.

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So it should be illegal for organizations created through the state to use their resources to actively oppose the state?
 

plutofan15

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You're right about that. But let's be honest. It wasn't all one-sided.

Chapek: "Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that." Argue all you want about the state's and Governor's response but if that isn't a "shot across the bow", I don't know what is. That's how all this got started and I would argue, a contributing factor to Disney working to get Chapek out of there and bring Iger back for his two year stint.
And there is nothing wrong with what Chapek said. That was the opinion of the company. People may not agree with what said but that is what is great about free speech, everyone is entitled to their opinion. What was said was not illegal nor do it cause any harm. It simply was not in agreement with the view of the governor. So he then threw a fit and started this mess. Pretty simple actually.
 
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Disney Glimpses

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Is it assumed at this point that this board had a bunch of grand plans for how it want to exercise its power/control in ways that do not necessarily benefit Disney?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
just give him a lifetime supply of pudding, minus utensils, & this can be all wrapped up by the end of the week
Do they still make those jello pudding pops or did Cosby ruin that forever? I’m just thinking if you really like pudding and are opposed to spoons the pudding pop is a smart and practical way to get your pudding fix without ever touching a utensil.

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Brian

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"Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that."

That is more than criticizing. That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process. That's a big difference. Chapek opened his big mouth (on paper). You can't tell me that isn't a contributing factor to Disney working to oust Chapek. Now we are where we are.
Are you disagreeing with corporate activism as a principle, or suggesting that Disney acted intended to act illegally by the looks of their statement?

I hate corporate activism more than anyone in the tri-state area, and also don't think that corporations should have the same rights as individuals, but they do, and many appellate and SCOTUS decisions affirm that, so what Disney put out in their statement isn't necessarily illegal, as much as I personally hate it.
 

sullyinMT

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Is it assumed at this point that this board had a bunch of grand plans for how it want to exercise its power/control in ways that do not necessarily benefit Disney?
Those are the emails/communications I’m interested in seeing in a discovery phase. What exactly Ron and their cronies thought the powers of the district are/were and how to exploit them to “bend the knee” of Disney.
 

plutofan15

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"Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that."

That is more than criticizing. That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process. That's a big difference. Chapek opened his big mouth (on paper). You can't tell me that isn't a contributing factor to Disney working to oust Chapek. Now we are where we are.
So? Now it cannot be said that something will actively be opposed? How dare somebody oppose a government decision. 🙄
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Are you disagreeing with corporate activism as a principle, or suggesting that Disney acted intended to act illegally by the looks of their statement?

I hate corporate activism more than anyone in the tri-state area, and also don't think that corporations should have the same rights as individuals, but they do, and many appellate and SCOTUS decisions affirm that, so what Disney put out in their statement isn't necessarily illegal, as much as I personally hate it.
At least in FL Disney’s response was a reduction of corporate activism….they stopped donating to politicians ;)

The only problem was the majority of their donations went to 1 party (which I guess is true of anyone unless they give exactly 50/50) and that party ain’t happy about losing their allowance from Uncle Walt
 

Brian

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At least in FL Disney’s response was a reduction of corporate activism….they stopped donating to politicians ;)


The only problem was the majority of their donations went to 1 party (which I guess is true of anyone unless they give exactly 50/50) and that party ain’t happy about losing their allowance from Uncle Walt
One silver lining in this gigantic storm cloud!

Also, they did a fair amount of donating to both parties, especially in Florida. Not sure it was quite 50/50, but a surprising amount went to the folks who ultimately made this RCID fiasco happen.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Those are the emails/communications I’m interested in seeing in a discovery phase. What exactly Ron and their cronies thought the powers of the district are/were and how to exploit them to “bend the knee” of Disney.
I doubt we ever see any of that. The inspector general isn’t investigating the state or the new board. They are looking at communication between the RCID board and TWDC.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
One silver lining in this gigantic storm cloud!

Also, they did a fair amount of donating to both parties, especially in Florida. Not sure it was quite 50/50, but a surprising amount went to the folks who ultimately made this RCID fiasco happen.
Disney gave $50K to the first DeSantis campaign….an election that was close and he had very shallow pockets compared to where he sits today so may have made a difference. Somewhere in Canada Alanis Morissette is thinking about adding a 4th verse to her biggest hit :cool:
 

tissandtully

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One silver lining in this gigantic storm cloud!

Also, they did a fair amount of donating to both parties, especially in Florida. Not sure it was quite 50/50, but a surprising amount went to the folks who ultimately made this RCID fiasco happen.
After they said they would stop donating to political campaigns.
 

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