News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Chi84]

You're right about that. But let's be honest. It wasn't all one-sided.

Chapek: "Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that." Argue all you want about the state's and Governor's response but if that isn't a "shot across the bow", I don't know what is. That's how all this got started and I would argue, a contributing factor to Disney working to get Chapek out of there and bring Iger back for his two year stint.

How is that anything other than an exercise of free speech, which in this country is safe from political retribution? Political speech is the highest form of protected speech.

 

[Disstevefan1]

blahh...Iger and Ron need to just sit down for a 1 on 1 and sort it all out...rather than letting this continue to play out in the media...getting tiring...

CAGE MATCH

 

[lazyboy97o]

You're right about that. But let's be honest. It wasn't all one-sided.

Chapek: "Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that." Argue all you want about the state's and Governor's response but if that isn't a "shot across the bow", I don't know what is. That's how all this got started and I would argue, a contributing factor to Disney working to get Chapek out of there and bring Iger back for his two year stint.

This doesn’t make it two sided. We’re allowed to criticize the government. It also has absolutely nothing to do with role of the District.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Ron's claim of 'the will of the people' is about as honest as Disney claiming closing Splash Mountain was the will of the people.

I honestly cannot stand when politicians say this. That because they were elected by plurality, anything and everything they do, no matter what, is the "will of the people." What an absolute joke of an argument.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I honestly cannot stand when politicians say this. That because they were elected by plurality, anything and everything they do, no matter what, is the "will of the people." What an absolute joke of an argument.

The will of the people that we were absolutely terrified of discussing publicly beforehand.

 

[Brian]

I honestly cannot stand when politicians say this. That because they were elected by plurality, anything and everything they do, no matter what, is the "will of the people." What an absolute joke of an argument.

Honestly though. They act as though they're infallible because they got elected by sometimes even the most narrow of margins. DeSantis did have a heck of a margin last November, but that doesn't mean that everything he does is something each and every one of those voters agrees with (take this situation and me, for example).

 

[Andrew C]

Protecting their interests seems pretty normal for a business to do.

Agreed.

Also it wasn't secret, like... at all.

When did you first post about it?

 

[Andrew C]

CAGE MATCH

I feel like we shouldn't underestimate Iger in that scenario...I don't know why...

 

[JohnD]

This doesn’t make it two sided. We’re allowed to criticize the government. It also has absolutely nothing to do with role of the District.

"Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that."

That is more than criticizing. That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process. That's a big difference. Chapek opened his big mouth (on paper). You can't tell me that isn't a contributing factor to Disney working to oust Chapek. Now we are where we are.

 

[mf1972]

Any chance that the Governor just tries to move on now, leave everyone with the news that so and so is investigating and then hope people forget about it in a week?

just give him a lifetime supply of pudding, minus utensils, & this can be all wrapped up by the end of the week

 

[JohnD]

How is that anything other than an exercise of free speech, which in this country is safe from political retribution? Political speech is the highest form of protected speech.

Florida Legislators Want To Remove The Reedy Creek Improvement District

I honestly cannot stand when politicians say this. That because they were elected by plurality, anything and everything they do, no matter what, is the "will of the people." What an absolute joke of an argument. Honestly though. They act as though they're infallible because they got elected by...

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[lazyboy97o]

"Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that."

That is more than criticizing. That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process. That's a big difference. Chapek opened his big mouth (on paper). You can't tell me that isn't a contributing factor to Disney working to oust Chapek. Now we are where we are.

It’s perfectly legal to want to change laws. It’s a key part of participatory governance.

 

[peter11435]

"Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that."

That is more than criticizing. That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process. That's a big difference. Chapek opened his big mouth (on paper). You can't tell me that isn't a contributing factor to Disney working to oust Chapek. Now we are where we are.

That’s exactly how the process is supposed to work in this country. if you disagree with a law you work to have it changed. They didn’t say they were going to ignore and violate the law. They said their goal was to see it changed. There’s nothing wrong with that and has been stated it’s protected speech.

 

[Dranth]

I don’t get it. The people who act like something illegal or shady is going on are just puzzling to me. At least if I assume they are being genuine and not just trolling. I understand it from Ron and his team as they are trying to not look like morons but for everyone else, really?

If the state was serious about this whole “Disney needs to play by the same rules” you would know because they would be passing laws that actually accomplished that goal. Instead they try taking over a local board in an attempt to force an entertainment company to only produce and release content that some campaign donors decide is okay. Not only that, according to the new law, the board has to consist of people who are uniquely unqualified to even understand the needs of such a district or the company that makes up the district. How could anyone think that kind of thing is remotely okay?

The state could have easily passed something that stopped RCID from issuing any more debt and slowly unwound the district in a way that covered the existing bonds while not screwing over the local counties. They didn’t do that because that was never the goal. So, for those that are, please stop pretending like this is anything more than the political stunt it has been from the start.

 

[tissandtully]

That is promising to actively oppose the State of Florida in the legislative and judicial process

Yes, you're allowed to disagree with the government. What am I missing here? This seems like a weird argument.

 

[James Alucobond]

I feel like we shouldn't underestimate Iger in that scenario...I don't know why...

His body is chrome. His blood is gasoline.

 

[JohnD]

It’s perfectly legal to want to change laws. It’s a key part of participatory governance.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[tissandtully]

I don’t get it. The people who act like something illegal or shady is going on are just puzzling to me. At least if I assume they are being genuine and not just trolling. I understand it from Ron and his team as they are trying to not look like morons but for everyone else, really?

If the state was serious about this whole “Disney needs to play by the same rules” you would know because they would be passing laws that actually accomplished that goal. Instead they try taking over a local board in an attempt to force an entertainment company to only produce and release content that some campaign donors decide is okay. Not only that, according to the new law, the board has to consist of people who are uniquely unqualified to even understand the needs of such a district or the company that makes up the district. How could anyone think that kind of thing is remotely okay?

The state could have easily passed something that stopped RCID from issuing any more debt and slowly unwound the district in a way that covered the existing bonds while not screwing over the local counties. They didn’t do that because that was never the goal. So, for those that are, please stop pretending like this is anything more than the political stunt it has been from the start.

Or do it for every other special district in the state. It's funny how they had no problem with this special arrangement until Disney stopped donating money to Florida Rs. DeSantis said he wasn't aware of this special district, which is pretty bad governing not knowing how the largest employer in your state operates.

 

[JohnD]

Yes, you're allowed to disagree with the government. What am I missing here? This seems like a weird argument.

Okay. One last time. That is more than disagreeing but promising to actively use your resources to oppose the State of Florida - the very state that created the RCID legislation to begin with. Legislators were like, "WTH?" Anyway, this is where we are now.

 

[GoofGoof]

I wouldn't exactly call 'stripping away the power of the board before the new board steps in' letting cooler heads prevail. That is one heck of a poison pill... I imagine Disney did what it thought needed to be done for its own protection...anyways...the escalation continues.

The board still has plenty of power, just not the power to change zoning of the land or prevent Disney from developing their property in compliance with the filed plan. The board still controls EMS and fire codes and road work and municipal services like purchasing electricity and picking up trash. The board still controls all vendors selected for any work in the district. The board still controls issuing new bonds and collecting taxes and balancing the budget. It’s disingenuous to describe the board as having all power stripped away. What the politicians and political appointees on the board are complaining about is that they have had “total control” stripped away. They thought they were going to be able to use the powers of the district to force Disney to act differently or change content. That is still maybe possible but much harder now.