News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Zummi Gummi

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Eh, I wouldn't be so sure. As soon as the media was occupied with other events last night, he quietly filed a bill to repeal the resign-to-run law Florida currently has, so he can remain Gov while running and when he comes home with his tail between his legs.
We all knew that was coming. Regardless, he's term limited here in Florida. Changing that is not something he can get the legislature to slip through. It would require amending the state Constitution, which has a much higher threshold in the state. Either way, he's gone in 3 years, and this is a case that can drag on through the courts for a decade if they so desire.
 

Parker in NYC

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We all knew that was coming. Regardless, he's term limited here in Florida. Changing that is not something he can get the legislature to slip through. It would require amending the state Constitution, which has a much higher threshold in the state. Either way, he's gone in 3 years, and this is a case that can drag on through the courts for a decade if they so desire.
Oh, I bet he can get the legislature to get that taken care of. Why wouldn’t they? Gotta keep Disney on blast. And I’m sure the next governor just wouldn’t have his… je ne sais plotz.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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RonnieBaby should just take the L and move on to other (actually important) state business and stop wasting time and taxpayers money on this.

TWDC will spend whatever money is needed to fight this for the sake of fighting and will win in the end.

Especially since Disneys not playing along so it’s a one sided argument, Disneys public involvement is limited to one Chapek comment over a year ago, they’ve been politely trying to diffuse the “argument” ever since.

He’s trying to make this some big dispute with a woke company but Disney has (smartly in my opinion) stayed out of it, they are just quietly making moves that hand him Ls while not giving him the public press he so desperately wants.

There’s no upside for him to carry on, I don’t think his ego will allow him to stop though.
 

Mr. Stay Puft

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In this particular instance, I love the move Disney did, I’m in the middle…not right, not left, but the paid supporters at the rally’s go on all the time with the other side too, so knock it off with the bashing it happens on BOTH sides.
I see you're one of those "both sides are the same!" people, who completely misses the nuisances that typically only originate from one side.
 

Stripes

Premium Member
So the new Reedy Creek board has chosen Fishback Dominick as special counsel to the board. This law firm was selected before they knew about the agreements and it was actually this firm that discovered the documents and presented them to the board. Fishback Dominick is the same law firm that wrote the Reedy Creek bill that DeSantis signed. The firm is now saying that the board needs to hire better lawyers in order to take on Disney.

How embarrassing!
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Not just a comment. Disney stopped donating money.
Publicly… but do we really know what they’re doing behind the scenes? I’d be shocked if Disney isn’t still greasing palms with PACs and other “harder to track” ways of donating, there’s too much money involved for Disney not to be playing the game.

DeSantis should have realized Disney is above his league, they are the masters at this game, I’ve always been impressed how they can maintain a squeaky clean public image while simultaneously being absolutely cut throat behind closed doors. He chose the wrong company to mess with.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
So the new Reedy Creek board has chosen Fishback Dominick as special counsel to the board. This law firm was selected before they knew about the agreements and it was actually this firm that discovered the documents and presented them to the board. Fishback Dominick is the same law firm that wrote the Reedy Creek bill that DeSantis signed. The firm is now saying that the board needs to hire better lawyers in order to take on Disney.

How embarrassing!
It is really embarrassing. None of this would be a big deal if certain politicians hadn’t taken their victory laps saying they took down “woke” Disney. Bragging about the “new sheriff in town” really aged poorly. :)
 

Smiley/OCD

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I see you're one of those "both sides are the same!" people, who completely misses the nuisances that typically only originate from one side.
No, I’m calling out the only bash, derogatory comments on one side and the other side is perfect…last I heard, no political commentary on this site. Perhaps it’s time to purge this thread once again…
 

hopemax

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Especially since Disneys not playing along so it’s a one sided argument, Disneys public involvement is limited to one Chapek comment over a year ago, they’ve been politely trying to diffuse the “argument” ever since.

He’s trying to make this some big dispute with a woke company but Disney has (smartly in my opinion) stayed out of it, they are just quietly making moves that hand him Ls while not giving him the public press he so desperately wants.

There’s no upside for him to carry on, I don’t think his ego will allow him to stop though.
There is plenty of upside for him and the rest of the FL GOP to keep this up. Every word spent on this by them and the media is a word NOT spent fielding questions about the other issues affecting FL and its residents that they DON’T have good answers for. And enough of the electorate allows them to get away with it. We have to stop believing that some people can eventually be shamed or embarrassed into changing course by “losing.” What does that even mean anymore in today’s environment? You just declare victory anyway, or point to the evil entity that’s “not you” that rigged the results.

The distraction and outrage this situation provides is the point. Has it negatively affected fund raising? Made him an anathema to a certain crowd that would offer speaking engagements and post-Governor business opportunities? It’s not ego when the checks and invitations keep rolling in. It’s just another way to succeed. Another way to hack and disrupt, which is all the rage these days, for personal gain. Corporate raiding is so 20th Century when you can exploit states instead. And whatever is left behind will matter as much as the shells of the raided companies did to the people who raided them.
 

peter11435

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TWDC can spend all the money whey wish on lawyers, we know TWDC wastes money on lots of things, but who is paying the lawyers on the other side?
So far the state of Florida. If the district takes action against Disney it will be paid for by the district. The district will use money it collected from taxpayers within the district. Since Disney is virtually the only taxpayer in the district the end result is Disney paying both sides of any litigation.
 

Mr. Stay Puft

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No, I’m calling out the only bash, derogatory comments on one side and the other side is perfect…last I heard, no political commentary on this site. Perhaps it’s time to purge this thread once again…
But this particular topic concerns Disney, which is undergoing what appears to be a political spat with the state of Florida. This is a particular topic that's impossible to discuss without mentioning the political ramifications that may end up affecting guest experiences and shareholders stake in the company. Which is why this topic is being discussed here, on a Disney forum, which normally restricts political discussions if they have nothing to do with Disney. Which this is about how politics are affecting or could affect Disney, and our shared experiences and/or our economic stake in the company.

I'm a Florida native and resident, a long time AP holder, a shareholder, and concerned citizen. I very much think this is a topic that warrants discussion where it can be permitted.
 

Disney Glimpses

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So far the state of Florida. If the district takes action against Disney it will be paid for by the district. The district will use money it collected from taxpayers within the district. Since Disney is virtually the only taxpayer in the district the end result is Disney paying both sides of any litigation.
Can a district sue a developer for an agreement that it itself legally entered into with itself?
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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But this particular topic concerns Disney, which is undergoing what appears to be a political spat with the state of Florida. This is a particular topic that's impossible to discuss without mentioning the political ramifications that may end up affecting guest experiences and shareholders stake in the company. Which is why this topic is being discussed here, on a Disney forum, which normally restricts political discussions if they have nothing to do with Disney. Which this is about how politics are affecting or could affect Disney, and our shared experiences and/or our economic stake in the company.

I'm a Florida native and resident, a long time AP holder, a shareholder, and concerned citizen. I very much think this is a topic that warrants discussion where it can be permitted.

There’s also a difference between talking about political things and being political.

Bashing / praising one side is being political, simply taking about something involving a government isn’t necessarily political.

It’s a fine line but I think everyone’s done a pretty good job of staying on the non political side of this, and the mods have handled the rest.
 

Smiley/OCD

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But this particular topic concerns Disney, which is undergoing what appears to be a political spat with the state of Florida. This is a particular topic that's impossible to discuss without mentioning the political ramifications that may end up affecting guest experiences and shareholders stake in the company. Which is why this topic is being discussed here, on a Disney forum, which normally restricts political discussions if they have nothing to do with Disney. Which this is about how politics are affecting or could affect Disney, and our shared experiences and/or our economic stake in the company.

I'm a Florida native and resident, a long time AP holder, a shareholder, and concerned citizen. I very much think this is a topic that warrants discussion where it can be permitted.
That’s fine, I have no problem with that…just everyone tone down the bashing…if it was coming from the other side, this would’ve been purged by now. That’s all I’m saying…
 
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Mr. Stay Puft

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That’s fine, I have no problem with that…just everyone time down the bashing…if it was coming from the other side, this would’ve been purged by now. That’s all I’m saying…
I understand your concern, but this particular subject is going to be impossible to avoid either side from bashing the other. Some are going to be vehemently anti-DeSantis pro-Disney, some are going to be pro-DeSantis and anti-Disney, and some are going to be somewhere in between. Both sides can hammer out their differences without the typical name calling and insults that are typical of political discourse on social media.
 

Parker in NYC

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I understand your concern, but this particular subject is going to be impossible to avoid either side from bashing the other. Some are going to be vehemently anti-DeSantis pro-Disney, some are going to be pro-DeSantis and anti-Disney, and some are going to be somewhere in between. Both sides can hammer out their differences without the typical name calling and insults that are typical of political discourse on social media.
The anti-Disney folks here continue to baffle me. How many times does a company have to go against one’s values before you throw in the towel? I mean, I won’t judge anyone for their kinks, but this is ridiculous.
 

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