News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Spokker

New Member
It’s not the moderator he needs to worry about, it’s the smarta$$ who’s going to be standing next to him on stage and mocking him with it in answer to unrelated questions.
There's one guy up there who is going to be hammering everybody on everything, but he has way less relevance this time. DeSantis has already shown he's adept at weathering these attacks and would probably hold his own in a debate. It's hard to believe that Republican voters penalize him for standing up against a large far-left corporation even if he didn't get everything he wanted out of that fight. Plus there's still a long time to go for all this to play out before those debates.

He has bigger things to worry about if he gets to the general. DeSantis' biggest liability as a presidential candidate in the general is if he goes through with a 6-week ban on that... thing (choosing my words carefully so my post shows up. Already had one post eaten by a word filter, I believe).
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Yes, who are INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION.

Unless Lilibet is now a beneficiary of Disney's profits?
Where does the law say they have to be involved in the situation? Would it be better if they used Ron DeSantis instead of the King of England? Wouldn’t change anything legally. The point is to set a date much later in time and it’s pretty well known publicly who the living descendants of King Charles are. That is all. You are getting way too caught up in reading something into this. It’s a kinda silly law and maybe the Government should just set a threshold like 125 years, but they haven’t so this is what we get.
 

Ben_since_1971

Well-Known Member
Yes, who are INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION.

Unless Lilibet is now a beneficiary of Disney's profits?



Really, it invokes King Charles?

/smh



LOL, I'm not wading into the dumpster fire this thread is any deeper, but you know as well as I do that if the new board had signed an agreement that included this clause, and used an innocent, multi-racial child who has nothing whatsoever to do with the situation as a legal object like Disney did, there would be widespread moral outrage accusing it of being a virulently racist, imperialist, white supremacist fantasy affront to society that could incite violence against marginalized groups, taking advantage of our antiquated legal system and held up as an example of systemic racism.

I don't think all that (I agree that many of those things exist, they just aren't relevant here) - but I do think it is gross and unnecessary given how many ways there are to do the same thing. And I just cannot imagine the Olympic level mental gymnastics that would need to be used to not think that the above is absolutely true - this would be a top headline scandal across media, instead of the funny little footnote it's being treated as. It's all anyone would be talking about.

Just like to begin with, up until this whole fiasco the majority of people you would find actually already thought that Reedy Creek needed some major changes and that Disney had too much power that was no longer appropriate and was given at a much different time than we currently live in - and certainly now wouldn't support a greedy corporation taking even more control/power (additionally now on property they don't even actually own!) as they are now. But that's just our society right now - a religious loyalty to politics is above reason or any semblance of consistency.

But anyway - back to your regularly scheduled echo chamber...
Have you thought of trying decaf?
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Where does the law say they have to be involved in the situation? Would it be better if they used Ron DeSantis instead of the King of England? Wouldn’t change anything legally. The point is to set a date much later in time and it’s pretty well known publicly who the living descendants of King Charles are. That is all. You are getting way too caught up in reading something into this. It’s a kinda silly law and maybe the Government should just set a threshold like 125 years, but they haven’t so this is what we get.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Disney stories - particularly those developed with Walt's input - relied heavily on European royalty and the tragic death of a mother. So choosing her heirs kind of thematically fits?
 

afterabme

Active Member
I am curious to know if Disney had discussions with Orange and Osceola County on setting up CRA’s within the WDW property if the district was dissolved.

While it wasn’t, it would be interesting to know those contingency plans that never got used.
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
Do you really think you are a better lawyer then Disney's legal team?


Disney is a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays millions of dollars a year to their legal team. They know what they are doing. The only way this gets overturned ...

Disney's lawyers ARE smart. Some of the best around. But that doesn't mean that keeping this from being overturned was their primary objective.
 

Ripken10

Well-Known Member
The number of wanna-be or actual low-level lawyers in this thread is astounding. Do you really think you are a better lawyer then Disney's legal team? I have no doubt every argument that has come up in this thread was reviewed by multiple legal experts on Disney's legal team because that is their job.

Disney is a multi-billion dollar corporation that pays millions of dollars a year to their legal team. They know what they are doing. The only way this gets overturned is by a partisian judge trying to make a statement. If that happens, I have no doubt this ends up in the Supreme Court and could result in Citizen's United being overturned. Do you really think politicians want to lose all that sweet lobbying money?

Disney came up with a plan and executed it. They counted on the fact that the state really didn't understand what they were doing and what power Disney actually had in the situation. They did everything in public knowing this was just for headlines and the State was too arrogant to pay attention.
I was thinking about that...how there are so many lawyers in this thread...but then it occurred to me. The lawyer profession is a very large percentage of the small subset of people that can now afford a disney vacation (according to most on this site at least). So it should surprise no one that so many lawyers could be on a disney fan page.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
Would it be better if they used Ron DeSantis instead of the King of England? Wouldn’t change anything legally. The point is to set a date much later in time and it’s pretty well known publicly who the living descendants of King Charles are.
Beyond having a solid understanding of who all the people in the group are, as a first requirement. The second requirement is that they'll still be well known enough to generate news events in the future. It is a relatively safe bet that people will still be following the royal family 100 years from now. Even if the role of the royal family changes in that time.

As of today, it's just as likely that nobody will be following the DeSantis line 100 years from now and that none of them will make any news reports then. The same reason they didn't pick the Iger family line either.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I was thinking about that...how there are so many lawyers in this thread...but then it occurred to me. The lawyer profession is a very large percentage of the small subset of people that can now afford a disney vacation (according to most on this site at least). So it should surprise no one that so many lawyers could be on a disney fan page.
When the revolution comes, the lawyers will be the first up against the Purple Wall.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Not really - the inclusion of that absolutely arbitrary, absurd clause, shows that they know that eventually this will be overturned legally, and it was just about making a statement.

It's not an arbitrary or absurd clause. It serves a specific purpose in common law (due to the Rule Against Perpetuities) and can be found in numerous places. Anyone who has been to law school knows all about it.

You can quibble about using Charles himself (i.e. specifically the Royal Lives version), but they have to pick someone to act as the life in being. It doesn't really matter who it is.
 
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