News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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JohnD said:
We know it won't be dissolved tomorrow. The bill which is likely to pass and be signed by the Governor gives Disney (and five other special districts) until 2023 to come up with a solution.
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It’s not even close to being that serious. As has been said 1000 times…the district would have to vote to dissolve and “chances aren’t good”. It’s not like the vote for Yeehaw Junction Animal Control Officer
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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lazyboy97o said:
No. Disney does not pay Reedy Creek Improvement District in lieu of paying the counties, it is in addition. You have been told this repeatedly.
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Disney's assessed property tax value is artificially low because of the existence of the District.

Magic Kingdom is assessed at $504 million. Magic Kingdom's actual value is probably closer to $10 billion.

I never claimed that RCID means Disney pays no county taxes. I claimed that Disney pays much less county taxes than it otherwise would if not for the existence of the District.
 
mikejs78

mikejs78

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
It’s not even close to being that serious. As has been said 1000 times…the district would have to vote to dissolve and “chances aren’t good). It’s not like the vote for Yeehaw Junction Animal Control Officer
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Not only that but apparently another provision of FL law is that a special district has to be dissolved the same way it was instituted. Reedy Creek was instituted in ordinary session, not special session, so this law may not end up applying to RCID at all...
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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JohnD said:
We know it won't be dissolved tomorrow. The bill which is likely to pass and be signed by the Governor gives Disney (and five other special districts) until 2023 to come up with a solution.
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The vote tomorrow is meaningless. The legislature can't just scrap the district on their own. The residents of the district have to vote to dissolve it. All the residents are Disney employees. It's not going to happen. And if DeSantis tries and end run to get around the requirement of having the residents vote, it will be stopped in court. There is a 0% chance of RCID going away.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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So the folks cheering this on - or even just shrugging their shoulders about it - are completely OK with blue states using legislation to penalize Fox News and Salem Radio, right? Those are the rules of the game, after all.

It should go without saying, of course, that that would be as wrong as what Florida is doing. Pointing to the misdeeds - or, in most cases, imagined misdeeds - of the other side to justify tyrannical behavior is one of the favorite practices of a large number of contemporary political commentators and their followers. And its a great way to demolish America.
 
payload

payload

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Hmmm Chapter 189.072 - "Dissolution of an independent special district" (2021 Florida Statutes) section 2A has a provision against this move without additional action from local voters no?
In order for the Legislature to dissolve an active independent special district created and operating pursuant to a special act, the special act dissolving the active independent special district must be approved by a majority of the resident electors of the district or, for districts in which a majority of governing body members are elected by landowners, a majority of the landowners voting in the same manner by which the independent special district’s governing body is elected. If a local general-purpose government passes an ordinance or resolution in support of the dissolution, the local general-purpose government must pay any expenses associated with the referendum required under this paragraph.
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Source: https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2021/0189.072
 
mikejs78

mikejs78

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CaptainAmerica said:
If the tax implications were as you contend, why wouldn't Disney have been actively lobbying to eliminate the RCID? Your contention seems to be that Disney is willingly paying for all of their own services that they could have subsidized by the residents of Orange and Osceola counties.
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Disney gets a lot of other benefits from RCID that make the money worth it to them.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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TJ Vazquez said:
Outside of the political theatre here, can anyone help me on the why in all of this. How does this benefit the State? Who does it benefit other than Ronnie?
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It hurts everyone, helps no one including Ronnie. If property taxes go up as a result of the removal of RCID I directly blame Ronnie!
 
C

coldasice880

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As a tactic couldn't Disney shut down WDW? Sure they would lose revenue but they have all of their other entities that will continue to being them the money. The real losses in that case would be Florida as Disney is the main reason Florida is an attraction state.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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Casper Gutman said:
So the folks cheering this on - or even just shrugging their shoulders about it - are completely OK with blue states using legislation to penalize Fox News and Salem Radio, right? Those are the rules of the game, after all.
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If Fox News gets special perks from the state of New York, I'd 100% support eliminating them.

Eliminating an advantage is just. Creating a disadvantage is unjust.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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the_rich said:
There's a statute in state law that says the residents of such districts have to vote on its dissolution. Guess who lives in the district?
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From the bill: "Notwithstanding s. 189.072(2), any independent special district established by a special act prior to the date of ratification of the Florida Constitution on November 5, 1968, and which was not reestablished, re-ratified, or otherwise reconstituted by a special act or general law after November 5, 1968, is dissolved effective June 1, 2023."

Ch. 189.072(2): "(2) OTHER DISSOLUTIONS.—
(a) In order for the Legislature to dissolve an active independent special district created and operating pursuant to a special act, the special act dissolving the active independent special district must be approved by a majority of the resident electors of the district"

Note the "Notwithstanding". That part of the statute doesn't apply.

Here's the bill: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sect...umentType=Bill&BillNumber=0004C&Session=2022C
 

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