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That's why it is stupid when a company gets into a ing contest with a state government. They might win battle but they won't win the war. Look at how long the tobacco industry fought against the feds when it came to advertising. They may have prolonged their ability to use Joe Camel and target kids but then the government still won in the end and probably hit them with tougher measures than if they had not fought tooth and nail from the start.
Vegas Disney Fan
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After skimming the last several pages for any updates (was at DL this weekend) that seems to be a fair assessment, it’s interesting that Disney has remained so quiet but I guess their statement about not fighting it is as much as we’re going to get. Seems they just want this circus and the accompanying press to quietly go away.
LittleBuford
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I really expected them to issue a statement to the CMs.
Kirby86
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The original statement pretty much did. They said It's going to buisness as usual and they are going to find a way to have the same quality working within the new limits. They might send out a cast member email tomorrow since I highly doubt corporate would be bothered to do it on the weekend.
sedati
Well-Known Member
"Watch what you say."
or
"Why stand up for what's right when you can sit down and shut up."
or
"Rights, schmites."
That's the message I got.
Do we know if the governor has signed the bill yet?Good discussion, but can we please keep it a bit more focused on RCID. Thanks
flynnibus
Premium Member
According to the website it doesn't look like it's been sent to the gov yet - https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294
JohnD
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Getting back to the topic at hand, it has to be "presented to the Governor" first. It hasn't yet. When presented, the Governor has up to 15 days to act on it. I'm checking the bill history regularly.
Bill history is here: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294
JohnD
Well-Known Member
Yeah. There is no way of knowing when. It's up to the Legislature. Presumably before regular session which begins in several weeks. Likely in the next few days.According to the website it doesn't look like it's been sent to the gov yet - https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294
Any idea what they're waiting for?According to the website it doesn't look like it's been sent to the gov yet - https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=77294
They made a point of setting "Effective Date: upon becoming a law".
It passed both the house and senate without any differences.
Is there some special thing now that's still needed?
When does the special session end? Looks like there's some 7 vs 15 day difference if the legislature is no longer in session while the governor is reviewing. However, same question then, what would the governor wait for?
It feels like it was rush rush rush, and not it's just sit and wait. Is there some news cycle or date they're trying to time it for?
JohnD
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The special session has ended. You reminded me about the 7 days as opposed to the 15 days. Yes, the Governor has 7 days after the ending of a session to act on a bill. 15 days to act while still in session. But only after when a bill is presented to the Governor. Last year's budget passed March 14, 2022 but wasn't presented to the Governor until June 2. From June 2, 2022, the Governor had 7 days to act on the bill.
So, while it is the Legislature that "presents" the bill to the Governor, you would be correct that the Governor and Legislature might mutually arrange when that date is. Speculation has already begun as to why. Talk amongst yourselves.
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lazyboy97o
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Today was a busy day. The decisions of private financial institutions such Partners, Disney’s credit union, need to be limited by the state.
So, did nobody present it? They went to the trouble to have a special session, make it effective immediately, and then they all just went home instead of sending it to the governor?
I think you have the number of days backwards. From the FL Senate FAQ:
Still, yes, based on when it's presented to the governor, not on when the vote happened.
So, maybe the original law dissolving districts applies to RCID and maybe it doesn't. And, it sounds like that law wasn't repealed. Bonus, the new law hasn't been signed either.
Meaning the "as-is" state of what is currently law is that RCID and bunch of other districts are going to be dissolved this summer. Probably, unless you assume it didn't apply to RCID, then just the others. If that law does apply to RCID, as was intended when passed (even if done sloppy), then actually passing this new law without anything else would only be in effect until the dissolution. Unless someone points out what in the new law (that is absolutely not creating a new district, just renaming one to avoid other issues) makes it so the dissolution clearly no longer applies.
On the one hand, without the new bill becoming a law, Disney could hold the position that the old law either didn't apply to RCID or did, depending on if they want to keep the district or not pay the extra taxes anymore.
On the other hand, assuming the new bill is turned into a law (since, otherwise special session was a huge waste), without the repeal of the dissolution, Disney could hold the position that the dissolution law applies to RCID and hence the new law is only in effect until the dissolution date. A time window that gets smaller and smaller every day the new law isn't signed.
That doesn't mean any of those will happen. Since, on the other other hand, Disney could just go along assuming everything does apply. At least until they no longer want to take that position. Just like they had full faith in Bob C right up until they no longer did.
mikejs78
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The dissolution law stated that any district would be dissolved unless their charters were updated. This bill effectively does that.
JohnD
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Yeah. I got them confused. That makes more sense. From presentation, 7 days while in session, 15 days when not in Session. No, it has not yet been "presented to the Governor". That's a formality to meet Florida Statute.
The RCID and the current law repealing it as of June 1 are still in effect until the Governor signs the replacement bill. Upon signing, it immediately becomes law (assigned a law # by the Department of State) and the replacement district immediately supercedes the RCID.
Ahhhh, thank you.
So, there's still some unknown number of other districts impacted. Some of which may get updated, some not. Caught in the side effects.
So, still sloppy.
Maybe they'll forget to send it to the governor before the first one goes into effect.
108 days. They could totally forget about it.
JohnD
Well-Known Member
I think the other districts will be taken up during Regular Session (March 7 - May 5). They won't forget the RCID bill.Ahhhh, thank you.
So, there's still some unknown number of other districts impacted. Some of which may get updated, some not. Caught in the side effects.
So, still sloppy.
Maybe they'll forget to send it to the governor before the first one goes into effect.
108 days. They could totally forget about it.