lazyboy97o
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That’s not how it works. Not to mention the serious safety issues that would arise from rushing construction.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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flynnibus
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When people read the staff analysis... you can see how people can say there was room for 'updates' that would have been relevant for RCID. But the thing is... 'if it ain't broke...' - There is no pressing need to modernize this, no conflicts that were causing friction, etc. And of course it wasn't demonstrating leadership problems that incite a need to replace the oversight.
So the reality is somewhere in the middle. Where updates relevant for RCID? Sure. Were they NEEDED? No Is the legislation just modernizing those defects? NO, its going way beyond that.
You could also argue the new structure has some benefits with the ideas of planned reviews, etc so you could scope this down or review instead of the 'forever kingdom' the original charter setup. In isolation, these points all make sense... but the problem is none of this is in isolation and it's not being done for 'house cleaning' or to improve citizen's needs.
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Do you think these are implicit or explicit goals of the State?
flynnibus
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This thread is about RCID and the changes the state is trying to enact. Not about general reaction to the "don't Say Gay Bill"
If you don't agree with me - take it up with the site owner. Until then... stop bringing that stuff into this thread and cause it to get railroaded or shutdown.
If you don't agree with me - take it up with the site owner. Until then... stop bringing that stuff into this thread and cause it to get railroaded or shutdown.
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. The state of Florida gave Disney their own government and a HIGHLY SPECIAL authority for the purporse of building "EPCOT". Sadly, Walt passed shortly after and EPCOT was turned into a common theme park. When this happened, the state should have pulled back the RCID municaplaity...because it was no longer necessary and the very reason for its special purpose had vanished.
No other theme park companies have this rare advantage given to them. You dont need ownership or controll over your own local government to operate a theme park business.
If there is one quote I believe with my very heart and soul, it's: "Power corrupts....absolute power corrupts absolutely" - Abraham Lincoln???
No other theme park companies have this rare advantage given to them. You dont need ownership or controll over your own local government to operate a theme park business.
If there is one quote I believe with my very heart and soul, it's: "Power corrupts....absolute power corrupts absolutely" - Abraham Lincoln???
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the_rich
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And Lincoln didn't say that
lazyboy97o
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Reedy Creek Improvement District was established to promote tourism. This is stated in its charter and the Supreme Court decision that upheld the District’s existence and authority.
You need things like electrical, water and sewer service to operate a theme park. You need things like roads to operate a theme park. You probably want things like safety standards to operate a theme park. Those things didn’t exist nor did the capacity to build them exist.
But yes, the people of Florida should be chanting that they want to pay their fair share of Disney’s bills.
danlb_2000
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So, theoretically, if Disney didn't like the idea of state control, could the dissolve the district before and new law goes into effect?
TehPuddingMan
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Lord Acton 1887
lazyboy97o
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No, there is language to prevent it from being dissolved or from having assets transferred.
GhostHost1000
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danlb_2000
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But that language doesn't go into effect until the law is passed.
JohnD
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lazyboy97o
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At a minimum the District could use eminent domain to take assets back. I’d have to back and check but I think there’s further language regarding powers, etc. They seem to have actually listened to those who pointed out that the municipalities are a potential problem with any plan.
danlb_2000
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But if the district doesn't exist, how can it take assets back?
lazyboy97o
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The ability of the District to dissolve itself is not certain due to issues such as the bonds. Even if that was the move, the legislation could just be amended to create a new district.
Disstevefan1
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No. My thinking is right now under RCID they are slow. Maybe under RCID they can extend permits at will, and projects can just drag on forever.
I am just speculating, Under the new district, permits will for sure take longer to get approved. This will increase the time and hassle to get permits and if the permit expires, they have to go through the process again, taking more time.
Maybe, just maybe, under the new district, once going through the hassle getting the permit, they will make a point to finish a project just to not have to go through the permit process again.
Universal Orlando seems to get things done in a timely manner so there is hope.
But having said that, the reality is, it will probably take longer for anything to get done under the new district simply because the new district is not in TWDC’s back pocket anymore.
Ayla
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Leave it to the media to focus on the wrong thing.As suggested by this CNN article, Disney has bigger problems to solve than what’s going on in Florida.
Disney has bigger problems than Ron DeSantis | CNN Business
Disney has found itself in the middle of a culture war battle that could end up transferring Disney World’s governance to a board appointed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. And that may be the least of Disney’s problems.amp.cnn.com
