News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Sirwalterraleigh]

78 pages of legal jargon… I’ll wait for the movie.

I wonder which YouTube channel will get their summary up first.

You gotta figure the trakkers are worried they might have to get a real job if they never build a new ride again…
…so I’m sure bricks are hitting the toilet over there

 

[flynnibus]

Fun line...

3028 hereafter enacted to the contrary notwithstanding, the
3029 jurisdiction and powers of the board of supervisors with respect
3030 to the matters provided for in this section shall be exclusive
3031 of any and all codes, ordinances, requirements, plans, or other
3032 regulations of the respective Boards of County Commissioners of
3033 Orange and Osceola Counties or of any other agency or authority
3034 of Orange County or Osceola County with respect to comprehensive
3035 plans; zoning; building and construction; planning with respect
3036 to the subdividing, uses, development, and redevelopment of
3037 land; regulation of building safety; regulation of escalators,
3038 elevators, and other lifting or transportation devices;
3039 regulation of amusement and recreation parks and facilities;

 

[Surferboy567]

It’s politics

It’s written to for the pols to use it to fundraise…which was the point from day 1

“We brought wussy Disney it’s knees…now donate to ma PAC”

I’ll just say it…it will be edited. I don’t care. This was the point since day one…they created a circus for attention, chapek was drawn into it (he had no real choice), and now they’re exploiting the big name for gain.

That’s what’s going on here and everyone knows it. Who’s zooming who?

We’ll all end up losing (customers)…so will the state and the locals. Watch it play.

But wait, is my understanding correct?

Can they make sweeping changes to the parks WITHOUT Disney’s consent? (Tearing down Dumbo if the state deems it not in line with their vision).

 

[mightynine]

So who's writing the headline? "Florida Man Attempts To Take Over One Of State's Key Economic Producers"

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Presumably they can't just accept this as they'd be handing a very hostile Florida government a huge amount of power over their operations in the state. Even if DeSantis now promises to play nice in return for a political victory, who's to say how future governments would use this power over them?

All rather insane; the sovereign risk of investing in Florida seems to heading into Venezuela territory.

That state was also just recently gerrymandered into oblivion too…which is not something “small” Disney will have to deal with either

The logical move is to cancel lake Nona…
I would…I bet they can get Sacramento to jump into the game

 

[flynnibus]

A few years to re-do existing code...

3089 (3) REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF EXISTING RESOLUTIONS, CODES,
3090 AND REGULATIONS.—On or before July 1, 2026, the district must
3091 undertake a comprehensive review and evaluation of its
3092 comprehensive plan, zoning regulations, land development
3093 regulations, environmental protection regulations, building and
3094 safety codes and regulations, platting and subdivision
3095 regulations, and fire prevention regulations and adopt revisions
3096 to such as the district determines are necessary for health,
3097 safety, and welfare and for consistency with this act.

 

[Surferboy567]

That state was also just recently gerrymandered into oblivion too…which is not something “small” Disney will have to deal with either

The logical move is to cancel lake Nona…
I would…I bet they can get Sacramento to jump into the game

Surprised they haven’t cancelled Lake Nona the minute the state got hostile.

 

[mmascari]

2201 Section 4. Board of supervisors; appointments;
2202 organization; term of office; quorum; annual meetings, report,
2203 and minutes.—
2204 (1) The Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida
2205 Tourism Oversight District shall be the governing body of the
2206 district, shall have controlling authority over the district,
2207 and shall exercise the powers granted to the district under this
2208 act and under chapters 189 and 298, Florida Statutes. The board
2209 of supervisors shall consist of five members appointed by the
2210 Governor and confirmed by the Senate, with one member designated
2211 as chair of the board of supervisors and one member designated
2212 as vice chair.

So, what stops or allows, the state to use this same process to simply replace the governing entity of every village/town/city/county in the state of FL?

Assuming a "friendly" legislature and Senate, using this same process, can the Governor and Senate simply take control of all local governments everywhere in the state? Just do away with local elections?

If that's not the correct way to read this, what prevents those that doesn't prevent this one too?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But wait, is my understanding correct?

Can they make sweeping changes to the parks WITHOUT Disney’s consent? (Tearing down Dumbo if the state deems it not in line with their vision).

I talked about gerrymandering…which is an ambiguous term usually that is directly applicable here

They can ram it through, Sign it, and have their elected courts rubber stamp it.

It’s why these things matter…actions over ideology. Just the act…not the speeches.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Surprised they haven’t cancelled Lake Nona the minute the state got hostile.

They should have…but their management was and in many will still is in disarray

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

But wait, is my understanding correct?

Can they make sweeping changes to the parks WITHOUT Disney’s consent? (Tearing down Dumbo if the state deems it not in line with their vision).

I don’t think the district has that type of power over private land use, they are in charge of permits, roads, sewer, etc just like a normal municipality, just like my city can deny me a permit to build a new shed but they dont have the power to tell me to tear down my permitted house.

 

[mikejs78]

Pretty sure this part is unconstitutional under the FL constitution.

Section 24. Ad valorem taxes.—The board of supervisors
3396 shall have the power to levy and assess an ad valorem tax on all
3397 the taxable real and tangible personal property in the district
3398 to pay the principal of and interest on any general obligation
3399 bonds of the district, to provide for any sinking or other funds
3400 established in connection with any such bonds, and to finance
and defray the cost of any of the projects or activities of the
3402 district authorized by the provisions of this act or under law,
3403 provided that the district's ad valorem taxing authority shall
3404 be limited to serving or benefitting the property owners of the
3405 district. The total amount of such ad valorem taxes levied in
3406 any year shall not be in excess of 30 mills on the dollar per
3407 annum on the assessed value of the taxable property within the
3408 district. The ad valorem tax provided for herein shall be in
3409 addition to county and municipal ad valorem taxes provided for
3410 by law.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Surprised they haven’t cancelled Lake Nona the minute the state got hostile.

Politically at least, they don't have much to gain from announcing a cancellation of Lake Nona.

Those who support this move will just hail it as another victory in the fight to drive wokeness out of the state and it helps that camp to imply some kind of hostility on Disney's part toward Florida. Even if they're rethinking it, they'd be best to keep quiet and (slowly) proceed for now.

 

[mikejs78]

I don’t think the district has that type of power over private land use, they are in charge of permits, roads, sewer, etc just like a normal municipality, just like my city can deny me a permit to build a new shed but they dont have the power to tell me to tear down my permitted house.

The act seems to give them this power. It also gives the district power of eminent domain.

 

[flynnibus]

Disney won't be able to build or tear anything down without approval of this district.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The act seems to give them this power. It also gives the district power of eminent domain.

If so it’s an easy win for Disney, no court in the land would allow a state to take eminent domain of a private business.

(Without a very justified reason like temporarily taking over a manufacturing facility during war for example.)

 

[mightynine]

Disney won't be able to build or tear anything down without approval of this district.

"So we're packing 'em in and we've barely built anything the last couple of years....we LOVE this idea! Send all the cap ex to the other parks!"

 

[Surferboy567]

The act seems to give them this power. It also gives the district power of eminent domain.

I’m not legal expert but if we are understanding this correctly surely that HAS to be illegal right?

No way Disney doesn't sue, on this one specific cause. It could have disastrous effects on the parks.

 

[LittleBuford]

Now the fun begins. Will Disney try to fight or just accept. Let the games begin.

There’s nothing fun about this. It’s curious to me that any Disney fan would watch what’s happening with such relish.

 

[ctrlaltdel]

The most obvious issue is the state taking away landowner's voting power for the district while keeping said district in place. This is extremely likely headed to court (assuming it will be settled by the federal courts at some point). This is way thornier and legally dubious than the state just dissolving the district.