Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well in this case there is no “coincidence” on timing
A certain company with a certain stock problem is facing a public battle for control in March.
And guess where it’s biggest cash cows grazes?
On the planet
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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A certain company with a certain stock problem is facing a public battle for control in March.
And guess where it’s biggest cash cows grazes?
On the planet
And water is wet. What do either of these have to do with the question you replied too?
This isn’t really a “do your own research” kind of thread. Site some facts, or go home.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Technically not true. Disney is by far the largest landowner, but not the only one. Direct from the RCID site:
Reedy Creek Improvement District (the “District”) is a progressive form of government, created in 1967 by a special Act of the Florida Legislature, the purpose of which is to support and administer certain aspects of the economic development and tourism within District boundaries. With an administration office located on Hotel Plaza Boulevard in Lake Buena Vista, the District encompasses approximately 25,000 acres in both Orange and Osceola counties, servicing 19 landowners, including Walt Disney Co. and its wholly-owned affiliates. RCID operates in accordance with its Charter and Chapter 189, Florida Statutes, The Uniform Special Districts Accountability Act. Additional information contained in legislation.
In my opinion it doesn’t matter how many land owners there are. If it’s 1, 19 or 1 million there should be no taxation without representation. If a government is going to assess taxes then the taxpayers or their elected representatives have a right to decide how those funds will be spent.
Since you asked the question, if Disney was the sole landowner in the district why should that matter? The district collects taxes and then provides municipal services. There is no harm to anyone outside of the district since they pay nothing. The landowners of RCID (mainly Disney) pay the same amount of taxes to the local counties as any other taxpayer so they aren’t avoiding taxes. What is the perceived harm that RCID causes. Why has nobody in the government solved this “problem” for the first 50 years the district existed. Why is it an issue now? I think we all know that answer but just curious what the spin will be.
mikejs78
Premium Member
The district also includes two general purpose governments in Lake Buena Vista and Bay Lake.
mysto
Well-Known Member
"general purpose government"
That is an interesting phrase.
Plug and play? Turnkey solution?
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
Iger is too politically savvy to get pulled into a public feud with DeSantis like Chapek did, I’ll be shocked if we get anything beyond a very scripted public statement stating how they look forward to working with their partners (or maybe friends) in Tallahassee to resolve the issue.
It was mentioned above, and I have no idea if it's true, nor the time to determine if it's true, BUT...
A special session does away with certain regular order rules, like debate, which allows laws to be more easily railroaded... oops, I mean, which allows laws to be responded to more quickly in emergency situations.
So, it's not the timing of the session, but what the kind of session allows to happen.
In this clearly very emergency situation.
I think.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s absolutely an emergency…I mean…this has run fine since 1967…
Gotta “nip it in the bud” now
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Technically speaking they passed the original bill to dissolve RCID without any real plan and it goes into effect in June so we are fast approaching an emergency situation. It’s a self made emergency but they do actually need to do something before June. I agree 100% on the special session point. This is clearly being done to hide the true plan until it’s been adopted. If they allowed actual debate and discussion the first time around maybe they wouldn’t need to undo the last knee jerk reaction. History repeating itself.
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Well it seems I have brought out a lot of IRE. Let's go back to what I originally posted. The Reedy Creek District will NOT be desolved. Instead the Special Session will pass legislation to change the management of the District. Instead of Disney appointing the 5 person board it will be the Governor. There will be No disruption in any of the other counties or municipalities, just business as usual. All debts stay with the District with Disney still being responsible for paying them. The sky will not fall, the world will not come to an end. The rest is my opinion in that Disney will accept the new arrangement and will not fight it. Instead they will adapt and learn to work with the new board. In my opinion at least one of the board members will be a local resident (i.e. a Disney employee). That is it. If anyone wants to argue if this is right or wrong, that is a separate argument. If someone believes Disney should lawyer up and fight this, we can agree to disagree. While the change was spurred by that school bill, the truth is that both parties have been talking about ending Disney's complete governance of the District for several years. If this governor had not taken action, IN MY Opinion, it would have happened eventually anyway.
Your confidence in the Florida legislature will be your undoing. -Palpatine
That’s truly sad in the boring somewhat tasteless cuisine of Central Florida when Tiger eats some of his meals at DennysIt was actually in the back parking lot behind the Perkins at crossroads…
No wait…that was tiger woods…I got confused again
peter11435
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The truth is that while those talks have happened, both parties have come to the conclusion time and time again that the district was benefiting the state, was operating legally as intended, and would be nearly impossible to modify in a way that would be beneficial for the state and its tax payers. That is… until this current administration.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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Blame a lot of the transplants. Markets adjust to meet the tastes and demands of the consumers. As others have pointed out quite well, outside of the usual tourist environs there is plenty of great food with flavor, but it might not fit the sensibilities of people from other regions.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Where were there posts talking about the sky falling or the world ending? TWDC doesn’t really need RCID anymore but that’s really not the point.
I have no problem having a serious discussion about this situation but the narrative that this was somehow “the plan” all along is simply false. If we cannot agree that this was done by the Governor as retaliation and a punish against Disney for opposing him then there’s no point continuing the discussion. It’s easy enough to find numerous public comments from the Governor and others involved confirming this. If this was the plan all along then why the special session? Why a bill passed without discussion or debate and without a plan? If this is part of a larger plan why not look at all special districts in the state? Why not the Villages? I think we all know the answer. So my point is we can discuss the merits of this move, we can discuss the legality of it, but it’s hard to try to have a serious discussion if we cannot all admit this is politically driven.
I NEVER claimed otherwise.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The word doesn't mean just voting...
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The District’s voting structure is not unique and not the issue. That system is not being undone across the state. There were no smaller landowners within the area of the District when it was created.
JohnD
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Everything I've heard on the news is about a regular session bill. I'm leaving Epcot now. Continue discussion...