peter11435
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You realize this isn’t true right?
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I’d have to check how Medieval Times in Kissimmee got their license to operate.
mikejs78
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This isn't true at all. When Disney came in 1967, there is no way that the counties had the resources to set up the infrastructure that Disney needed to get going. And even ongoing, the counties don't have the resources to maintain that infrastructure. If Reedy Creek hadn't existed, there would be no Disney World, no Uni, no Sea World, and Central Florida would still be mostly swamp.
This was and is a mutually beneficial arrangement between Disney and the state. The fact that it was undone to satisfy one man's national political ambitions is the story here.
Roy G. Dis
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You. Are. Not. Allowed. To. Flex. Government. Power. In. Response. To. Speech.
Do you also support using government power to ban all intolerable religions too?
What about the 1,844 other companies and organizations in Florida that have special districts? At the expense of what “others”?
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
Also the fact that uni is part of a special district - it's just different in composition to what RCID is.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Why are you so unwilling to discuss specifics?
So, nothing I initially said was untrue, then.
You’ve yet to explain how it’s an unfair advantage. The size of Disney means they have needs that parks a fraction of their size don’t. Those parks aren’t running their own good-size city. This was all set up because Orlando counldn’t provide the infrastructure Disney needed to create the parks. And Disney creating the parks is what led to the other parks being built and boomed the Orlando economy. Do you think Orlando would be in a better place if no district had been created and Disney was never built?
Either way, the point is moot. FL has the right to re-evaluate special districts. However, they don’t have the right to do it as punishment for Disney disagreeing with their policies. That’s unconstitutional and fascist.
MrMichaelJames
Active Member
What is the end game here? Disney spoke out, gets “punished” (maybe illegally) but then what? Does FL just think that Disney the corp will just “change their mind” and continue with political donations? What is going to happen is they just poked the wasp nest with a ton of employees and money that can work from outside the state or start investing elsewhere. At the same time potentially ing off a ton of voters and maybe even tourists. Revenge rarely works. What is even more crazy is I have relatives that think the FL governor is the best thing next to Trump! The crazy koolaid did still flowing.
LittleBuford
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It doesn’t surprise me that he’s popular; populists often are. That doesn’t make what he’s doing any less repugnant.Looks like your relatives aren't the only one. "These polls don't matter because CNN is obviously a right-wing echo chamber" in 3...2....1....
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bdearl41
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It’s why we are a republic and not a pure democracy. Republics can better repel troublesome populist movements.
Diamond Dot
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I wonder what the residents of Orange County will be thinking when the average rise in property tax goes up by around $300 a year and business taxes will go up by the thousands, including businesses like Universal and Sea World.
There was a very interesting interview with the Orange County Tax Collector, Scott Randolph on YouTube. If I were a resident of Orange County I would be immediately looking into the personal impact on my finances from DeSantis' rash actions.
There was a very interesting interview with the Orange County Tax Collector, Scott Randolph on YouTube. If I were a resident of Orange County I would be immediately looking into the personal impact on my finances from DeSantis' rash actions.
Diamond Dot
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Go watch Scott Randolph's interview in CNN.
Brian
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I'm not coming after you directly, so please don't take it that way. On the topic of Scott Randolph, folks on this board should consider that he is an elected Democrat and even a former Democrat state representative. Right now, the biggest priority for Florida Democrats is to unseat Ron DeSantis in November, and, though it would likely prove futile, try to take the majority in one or both houses of the legislature.
That's not to say that Randolph is incapable of providing factual information. The biggest problem that I see in society today is that even factual information can be and is often presented without painting the complete picture. Then there's the problem of a partisan figure being treated as an unbiased and objective source of information.
For example, many of the articles on the local and even national news about the RCID legislation quote Randolph as saying that Orange County can't just start taxing Disney what RCID was taxing them, so there will be additional burden on all taxpayers. Based on the research I've done, that is true. However, if we had a fair and objective press in this country, what would be reported next is that the governor and his office has repeatedly said that there are plans in the works to avoid saddling county taxpayers with what is currently Disney's responsibility. This would balance out the partisan nature of the conversation by providing "both sides to the story" and letting the reader/viewer decide for themselves how to feel about the issue.
Some members have rightfully pointed out that Randolph has provided what they believe to be correct information, while the governor's office has not yet put forth a concrete plan. I don't dispute that. What I do dispute is the bias displayed in the media in this story by trying to stoke outrage against DeSantis and the Florida GOP by willfully ignoring the other side of the story, and holding up legitimately partisan officials such as Randolph as unbiased sources of information.
mikejs78
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There's a bunch of stuff enshrined in the FL.constitution on taxes. The legislature has limited options
It's not fair and objective if the governor doesn't present a plan. Just saying that they will be saddled with it is meaningless. And by the way, that has been reported.
It's not bias if one person is presenting factual information and another one that just making assertions without anything to back it up. I'd be happy to listen to DeSantis's side of he presented a plan - which should have been done before this bill was even voted on.
lazyboy97o
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The legislature can’t just ignore the state constitution.
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
That has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Again, one person presenting facts which have been independently verified, another making broad claims without specifics.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
None of that is relevant if you can’t dispute what he is saying.
MaryJaneP
Well-Known Member
Really? Keep watching!
Brian
Well-Known Member
I disagree. I think that media outlets have an obligation to present both sides of the issue. If they think that the other side's take on it is lacking, report it anyway and let the readers/viewers decide. By ignoring the other side's take because they find it lacking, they are being biased.
Where I agree wholeheartedly is that this should have never been an issue, and the issue of the debt/tax burden should have been addressed as part of the initial proposal.