News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

GrumpyFan

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It seems like mostly political banter to make Desantis look bad, but still good to see that it's not being swept under the rug. Keeping eyes on them and this clown show certainly helps in the court of public opinion, and perhaps some even in the official courts if it appears they are no better than what they were supposedly trying to fix.
 

Disney Analyst

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It seems like mostly political banter to make Desantis look bad, but still good to see that it's not being swept under the rug. Keeping eyes on them and this clown show certainly helps in the court of public opinion, and perhaps some even in the official courts if it appears they are no better than what they were supposedly trying to fix.

And if there really was an issue with the setup of the district after all these years, I don’t think many would have cared if they made some adjustments.

However, blowing it all up and taking it over… was dumb.
 

tissandtully

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That's almost 11% of the staff. Losing 11% of your staff due to resignations - in any government entity or company - is a bad look. Let's see how the CFTOD ignores this or spins it.
This was the intention, drive out people who know what they are doing, any intellectuals, anyone who cares about a functioning government and replace with cronies. Same thing happened with New College.
 

Surferboy567

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Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?
 

mkt

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Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?

No. Just like when a crap government is elected (rather than imposed), the damage will never be completely undone. But steps can be taken to fix as much of it as possible.
 

donsullivan

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Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?
It will never go fully back to what it was, even if Disney does totally win everything they are asking – which is highly likely. This whole adventure highlighted many opportunities where things were a little too intertwined between Walt Disney World and RCID. There are lots of things where they probably didn't have the appropriate levels of separation between WDW and RCID which would likely be a good idea to continue separating for the future. Most of them aren't the types of things that WDW guests would ever notice but real infrastructure things like telecommunications infrastructure and things like that. Disney will likely want to have a little bit more of an air gap between WDW and RCID going forward if only to improve perceptions and show they are 'doing the right thing' once they regain control.

I've believed for some time that it might not be a bad idea to expand the size of the board a little and have one representative each designated by Orange and Osceola County given the impact RCID/WDW activities have on the surrounding communities. Again, a gesture toward 'improving' the operations once they regain control.
 

mmascari

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Ahead of a court hearing, the District has filed a response in opposition to Disney’s request for a continuance. In the response, the District argues “no amount of discovery will make a difference” because the District says that it is asking for summary judgment on what it claims are undisputed violations of law.

Anyone with experience want to weigh in on the validity of this type of argument or how the judge is likely to take it?

I suppose we'll find out in a few hours.
 

Isamar

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They continue to argue that their motion for summary judgment relies on undisputed facts but that simply isn’t true. They’re even claiming that Disney shouldn’t be able to depose the people who signed the declarations that contain these “undisputed” facts before the motion is heard??
But what the judge will do? 🤷‍♀️ She did set a date to hear the continuance motion very promptly. I wish we could listen in, because I’d be interested to hear how she deals with it.

BTW, after they filed their response, the district filed a notice of the December hearing date for the motion. Unless that was required pursuant to a pending deadline, it seems like a particularly obnoxious flex while the continuance motion is pending.
 

Isamar

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New agenda for November 15 includes this:

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They’ve also added another bus route:

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I have no idea whether RCID provided any of these routes before -?

(Full package not posted yet)
 
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lazyboy97o

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Anyone with experience want to weigh in on the validity of this type of argument or how the judge is likely to take it?

I suppose we'll find out in a few hours.
Not turning over discovery materials did play a role in a default judgement against a high profile person just a few months ago. That though was in federal court.
 

EeyoreFan#24

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New agenda for November 15 includes this:

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That's probably for maintenance of the current system. It's pretty common to have a maintenance contract for these systems, some of the bigger counties even have on-site full time dedicated techs from the manufacturer written in to their contracts.
 

mikejs78

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highlighted many opportunities where things were a little too intertwined between Walt Disney World and RCID. There are lots of things where they probably didn't have the appropriate levels of separation between WDW and RCID which would likely be a good idea to continue separating for the future.

Really? The consensus is that what it has shown is that there *was* good separation between RCID and Disney. There is zero evidence that things were too intertwined.
 

Goofyernmost

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My wild guess is that IF Disney gets RCID back they will find a way to dissolve it completely and create a department within the Disney Company (WDW branch) that does the same things RCID did but further insolate them from ignorant wanna be dictators interfering with how the company is run. I'm sure that the bond situation would seamlessly be absorbed by TWDC or have RCID remain strictly for that purpose. It seems kind of foolish to think that there is any real separation between RCID and Disney. It is a new colossal level of stupid to think that it wasn't established to benefit both WDW and the surrounding counties.

I won't pretend to know exactly how they would do that, but with the right actions I don't see how it wouldn't be possible.
 

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