Surferboy567
Well-Known Member
Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?
Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?
It will never go fully back to what it was, even if Disney does totally win everything they are asking – which is highly likely. This whole adventure highlighted many opportunities where things were a little too intertwined between Walt Disney World and RCID. There are lots of things where they probably didn't have the appropriate levels of separation between WDW and RCID which would likely be a good idea to continue separating for the future. Most of them aren't the types of things that WDW guests would ever notice but real infrastructure things like telecommunications infrastructure and things like that. Disney will likely want to have a little bit more of an air gap between WDW and RCID going forward if only to improve perceptions and show they are 'doing the right thing' once they regain control.Say Disney hypothetically, does win and gets everything they want. This includes a full reversal of Reedy Creek back to the way it was. Is that even possible now with all this damage being done?
Ahead of a court hearing, the District has filed a response in opposition to Disney’s request for a continuance. In the response, the District argues “no amount of discovery will make a difference” because the District says that it is asking for summary judgment on what it claims are undisputed violations of law.
307 is a new routeNew agenda for November 15 includes this:
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They’ve also added another bus route:
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I have no idea whether RCID provided any of these routes before -?
(Full package not posted yet)
Not turning over discovery materials did play a role in a default judgement against a high profile person just a few months ago. That though was in federal court.![]()
DeSantis' Oversight District Says "No Amount of Discovery Will Make a Difference" in Disney Court Battle
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District has filed a response to Disney's request for a 75-day continuance in a state-level court battleblogmickey.com
Anyone with experience want to weigh in on the validity of this type of argument or how the judge is likely to take it?
I suppose we'll find out in a few hours.
Any reports on what occurred today?
New agenda for November 15 includes this:
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highlighted many opportunities where things were a little too intertwined between Walt Disney World and RCID. There are lots of things where they probably didn't have the appropriate levels of separation between WDW and RCID which would likely be a good idea to continue separating for the future.
Can you point out some examples where the WDW and RCID were too intertwined?It will never go fully back to what it was, even if Disney does totally win everything they are asking – which is highly likely. This whole adventure highlighted many opportunities where things were a little too intertwined between Walt Disney World and RCID. There are lots of things where they probably didn't have the appropriate levels of separation between WDW and RCID which would likely be a good idea to continue separating for the future. Most of them aren't the types of things that WDW guests would ever notice but real infrastructure things like telecommunications infrastructure and things like that. Disney will likely want to have a little bit more of an air gap between WDW and RCID going forward if only to improve perceptions and show they are 'doing the right thing' once they regain control.
I've believed for some time that it might not be a bad idea to expand the size of the board a little and have one representative each designated by Orange and Osceola County given the impact RCID/WDW activities have on the surrounding communities. Again, a gesture toward 'improving' the operations once they regain control.
My wild guess is that IF Disney gets RCID back they will find a way to dissolve it completely and create a department within the Disney Company (WDW branch) that does the same things RCID did but further insolate them from ignorant wanna be dictators interfering with how the company is run. I'm sure that the bond situation would seamlessly be absorbed by TWDC or have RCID remain strictly for that purpose. It seems kind of foolish to think that there is any real separation between RCID and Disney. It is a new colossal level of stupid to think that it wasn't established to benefit both WDW and the surrounding counties.
I won't pretend to know exactly how they would do that, but with the right actions I don't see how it wouldn't be possible.
I think the CFTOD might have misinterpreted the Judge‘s willingness to explore the underlying issues of the case (as opposed to dismissing it outright) as implicit support for their cause.
Apologies, if this was posted.
It's not possible because there are municipal bonds outstanding that can't suddenly be converted to corporate debt. There are income tax implications for bondholders. Also, some of those bonds cannot be paid off early, so even if RCID managed to operate without taking on any more debt for infrastructure projects, they're still handcuffed by the terms of the outstanding debt. This is the same reason why the state had to change gears their plans to dissolve RCID to the hostile takeover they eventually chose.My wild guess is that IF Disney gets RCID back they will find a way to dissolve it completely and create a department within the Disney Company (WDW branch) that does the same things RCID did but further insolate them from ignorant wanna be dictators interfering with how the company is run. I'm sure that the bond situation would seamlessly be absorbed by TWDC or have RCID remain strictly for that purpose. It seems kind of foolish to think that there is any real separation between RCID and Disney. It is a new colossal level of stupid to think that it wasn't established to benefit both WDW and the surrounding counties.
I won't pretend to know exactly how they would do that, but with the right actions I don't see how it wouldn't be possible.
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