News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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The state recently lost a state case where appointees ruled against the executive branch. Showing again that who appointed a judge is not necessarily indicative of how they will rule on a case. The case revolved around public record requests and the state apparently tried to just claim requests were not made. I have to wonder if this influenced Disney’s decision to subpoena records to try and avoid such delay tactics.
 
flyakite

flyakite

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NOTICE OF MEETING
YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on October 25, 2023 at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at 1900 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption: Resolution No. 656; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURISM OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING THE AMENDED BUILDING AND SAFETY DEPARTMENT FEE SCHEDULE; ADOPTING AND AMENDING BUILDING PERMITS, PLAN REVIEWS, PLAN REVISIONS, STATE OF FLORIDA SURCHARGE FEES, TEMPORARY STRUCTURES, MANUFACTURED BUILDINGS AND TRAILERS, BUILDING RELOCATIONS, ELEVATORS, ESCALATOR, MATERIAL AND DUMBWAITER PERMITS, CERTIFICATE OF OPERATION FEES, ANNUAL REGISTERED ATTRACTION INSPECTION FEES, STRUCTURE DEMOLITION, SERVICE CALL TECHICIAN RESPONSE, ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS AND METHODS REQUESTS, TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION, INVESTIGATION FEE, SPECIAL EQUIPMENT, REINSPECTION FEE, CHANGE OF CONTRACTOR FEE, RENEW EXPIRED PERMIT FEE, AND OTHER FEES; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE; Resolution No. 657; A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURISM OVERSIGHT DISTRICT UPDATING REFERENCED CODES AND STANDARDS WITHIN THE EPCOT COMPILATION CODES, 2018 EDITION AND INCORPORATING REFERENCES INTO THE 2018 EPCOT BUILDING CODE, 2018 EPCOT ELECTRICAL CODE, 2018 EPCOT FUEL GAS CODE, 2018 EPCOT MECHANICAL CODE, AND 2018 EPCOT PLUMBING CODE AS ENFORCED WITHIN THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURISM OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BY: Rocky Haag, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
 
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TtocsMc

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I wonder if there will be any mention of the stipend promised to employees? From the sounds of things no one has received any money nor have they heard of any package deal being put together with the WDW company like they were told was happening.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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a more readable version....

NOTICE OF MEETING​

You will please take notice that on October 25, 2023 at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at 1900 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption:

Resolution No. 656;

a resolution of the board of supervisors of the central Florida tourism oversight district
  • adopting the amended building and safety department fee schedule;
  • adopting and amending
    • building permits,
    • plan reviews,
    • plan revisions,
    • state of Florida surcharge fees,
    • temporary structures,
    • manufactured buildings and trailers,
    • building relocations, elevators, escalator, material and dumbwaiter permits,
    • certificate of operation fees,
    • annual registered attraction inspection fees,
    • structure demolition,
    • service call techician [sic] response,
    • alternative materials and methods requests,
    • temporary certificate of occupancy,
    • certificate of occupancy,
    • contractor registration,
    • investigation fee,
    • special equipment,
    • reinspection fee,
    • change of contractor fee,
    • renew expired permit fee,
    • and other fees;
providing for severability, conflicts and an effective date;


Resolution no. 657;
a resolution of the board of supervisors of the central Florida tourism oversight district updating
  • referenced codes and standards within the EPCOT compilation codes,
    • 2018 edition and incorporating references into the 2018 EPCOT building code,
    • 2018 EPCOT electrical code,
    • 2018 EPCOT fuel gas code,
    • 2018 EPCOT mechanical code,
    • and 2018 EPCOT plumbing code as enforced within the central Florida tourism oversight district;
providing for severability, conflicts and an effective date.


Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions.

If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.


BY: Rocky Haag, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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TtocsMc said:
I wonder if there will be any mention of the stipend promised to employees? From the sounds of things no one has received any money nor have they heard of any package deal being put together with the WDW company like they were told was happening.
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Id have to go back… but I believe it wasn’t set to be paid until the new year. They just set the new budget. This was never an immediate thing.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Batman'sParents said:
Isn’t the Board going to be raising permit and other fees so that those departments are able to operate on those fees alone?
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They said before the fee schedule hasn’t been touched in like 8(?) years. I think its just the usual… a good way to cut out any ‘advantage’ for disney and self serving.
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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Surprised they haven’t added anything about Universal being granted a special district to the lawsuit.
MisterPenguin said:
a more readable version....

NOTICE OF MEETING​

You will please take notice that on October 25, 2023 at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at 1900 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption:

Resolution No. 656;

a resolution of the board of supervisors of the central Florida tourism oversight district
  • adopting the amended building and safety department fee schedule;
  • adopting and amending
    • building permits,
    • plan reviews,
    • plan revisions,
    • state of Florida surcharge fees,
    • temporary structures,
    • manufactured buildings and trailers,
    • building relocations, elevators, escalator, material and dumbwaiter permits,
    • certificate of operation fees,
    • annual registered attraction inspection fees,
    • structure demolition,
    • service call techician [sic] response,
    • alternative materials and methods requests,
    • temporary certificate of occupancy,
    • certificate of occupancy,
    • contractor registration,
    • investigation fee,
    • special equipment,
    • reinspection fee,
    • change of contractor fee,
    • renew expired permit fee,
    • and other fees;
providing for severability, conflicts and an effective date;


Resolution no. 657;
a resolution of the board of supervisors of the central Florida tourism oversight district updating
  • referenced codes and standards within the EPCOT compilation codes,
    • 2018 edition and incorporating references into the 2018 EPCOT building code,
    • 2018 EPCOT electrical code,
    • 2018 EPCOT fuel gas code,
    • 2018 EPCOT mechanical code,
    • and 2018 EPCOT plumbing code as enforced within the central Florida tourism oversight district;
providing for severability, conflicts and an effective date.


Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions.

If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.


BY: Rocky Haag, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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Why are they going after EPCOT specifically? If they significantly charge more for fees out of normal range is that grounds for adding to the lawsuit as well. That would probably have consequences for any future investments or updates to pavilions.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Surferboy567 said:
Surprised they haven’t added anything about Universal being granted a special district to the lawsuit.
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Because it’s nothing new with any sort of material impact. It doesn’t even involve any of the parties to the suits.
Surferboy567 said:
Why are they going after EPCOT specifically? If they significantly charge more for fees out of normal range is that grounds for adding to the lawsuit as well. That would probably have consequences for any future investments or updates to pavilions.
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The fees are something that is at the discretion of the district and haven’t been escalated in years.
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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lazyboy97o said:
Because it’s nothing new with any sort of material impact. It doesn’t even involve any of the parties to the suits.
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If I’m understanding this right, I disagree with this statement. DeSantis clearly has said that he believes NO company should have an advantage over another within Florida. Obviously, he’s saying this as justification for his attack on Disney because they attacked a piece of his legislation. Since he said this though, wouldn’t granting universal give them a “advantage” proving that he is just attacking one specific company in this case Disney.

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This sounds oddly familiar……
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Also, I remember this being said when Universal was granted their special district seems to go against their tune when talking about Reedy Creek.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Surferboy567 said:
If I’m understanding this right, I disagree with this statement. DeSantis clearly has said that he believes NO company should have an advantage over another within Florida. Obviously, he’s saying this as justification for his attack on Disney because they attacked a piece of his legislation. Since he said this though, wouldn’t granting universal give them a “advantage” proving that he is just attacking one specific company in this case Disney.


Also, I remember this being said when Universal was granted their special district seems to go against their tune when talking about Reedy Creek.
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Disney has already noted that many other special districts exist in Florida. The Shingle Creek Transportation & Utility Community Development District is a community development district created by the county under Chapter 190 of the Florida Statutes. A community development district is the most bog standard type of special district in Florida. There being yet another one doesn’t change anything because it’s just more of the same.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
Surferboy567 said:
If I’m understanding this right, I disagree with this statement. DeSantis clearly has said that he believes NO company should have an advantage over another within Florida. Obviously, he’s saying this as justification for his attack on Disney because they attacked a piece of his legislation. Since he said this though, wouldn’t granting universal give them a “advantage” proving that he is just attacking one specific company in this case Disney.
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It's part of a discussion/discrediting of the arguments made by DeSantis... but it doesn't change the actual claims Disney is suing over, nor are the parties involved actually part of this lawsuit. So it's not something that would result in changes in the filings by Disney.

The stuff enabled for Uni is not within scope of the Gov or legislation's actions because it's granted by the county.
 
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Isamar

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In the state court case: Disney has filed a notice of intent to subpoena John Classe for a deposition to be taken on October 31.

Documents requested:
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Isamar

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I assume they’ll charge for parking and the district gets a cut?
I have no idea whether this contract makes financial sense for the district (🤷‍♀️) but I doubt that’s what they care about.

So guests will pay for parking, and most will probably assume Disney made the change, and those guests (ie. citizens from outside the district) contribute to maintaining the parking garages that benefit Disney and other district taxpayers. Yup, that totally tracks.
 
JKick95

JKick95

Active Member
Do we think Disney will pay a fee to prevent guests paying a fee? Reopen the flat parking? Or negotiate a purchase of the parking garages?

Does not seem business friendly to charge money.
 

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