lazyboy97o
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Have not read the motion yet, but it seems rather ballsy to just go ahead and unilaterally proclaim there is no factual dispute before the defendant has responded to the complaint.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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mikejs78
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I'm still not clear on how the district even has standing around any of these issues. For all intents and purposes, they are the successors to the party (RCID) that allegedly did not follow the procedures. My understanding is only the supposedly injured parties - the landowners or the municipalities - would have standing to sue on these matters.
Surferboy567
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That is true, but the public battle of opinion being waged here is also super important.
Doesn’t need to go though the state first judging by how the motion to dismiss was denied?
Surferboy567
Well-Known Member
That is true but it’s also worth noting this is more then just land development on the line.
I do agree though a settlement may not be the best course of action.
JAB
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There are two separate lawsuits that have been filed - one at the federal level and one at the state level.
Disney filed their lawsuit in federal court based on their assertion that the FL government's action violate the US constitution (a lawsuit can be filed directly in federal court if it relates to federal law). The CFTOD then later filed their own lawsuit against Disney in FL state court claiming the development contract Disney signed with RCID was not legally executed.
Wendy Pleakley
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So, hypothetically, if the courts rule in a way that says yes, Florida can take over RCID as they have done.
Can Disney then remove themselves from the arrangement completely? Can they say that since they no longer hold decision making process they want to pay the same tax rate other companies do?
So messy.
Can Disney then remove themselves from the arrangement completely? Can they say that since they no longer hold decision making process they want to pay the same tax rate other companies do?
So messy.
lazyboy97o
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Disney cannot remove themselves from the situation. If they lose they are stuck.
MrPromey
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Lill' ol' Bob C. was signaling that before the fight even began.
His public timidness around the whole thing is probably what made DeStantis think he could come in and run ruck shot over them to begin with.
I think DeSantis thought he'd found an easy target.
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flynnibus
Premium Member
Lots of messy overlap in your statement.
1) Disney didn't directly hold decision making in the first place
2) The landowners can't nullify an existing special district on their own - so in short... no they can't just nope out.
The Florida legislature already cancelled the RCID. They then repealed that law and passed a new one to harm Disney. The Federal Court clearly will decide the second bill is an unconstitutional bill designed to harm Disney. At that point the Federal Judge will ask Florida if they want all of the second bill declaired unconstitional or only the part changing the RCID to the CFTOD. Unless the Florida lawyers are stupid they will ask the Judge to only eliminate the second part of the bill.
Wendy Pleakley
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They can do things like cancel that employee campus. They probably would have anyway, but in general, they can reduce investment in Florida.
Many conventions are already pulling out. I'm sure Disney could contribute that by not hosting conventions themselves.
There'd be an element of hurting themselves to spite Florida, but they have the deep pockets and the ability to do so. Simply saying that investing in California is the better option would send a warning for the future.
Here's the Orlando Sentinel's take on the motion.
"Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight district asked a state judge Tuesday to rule in its favor against Disney, a day after the governor said he has moved on from his feud with the entertainment giant.
The courts should declare development agreements limiting the tourism board’s authority over Disney World’s future development null and void, lawyers for the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District wrote in a motion for summary judgment.
The legal battle involves a special taxing district, formerly known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District, that oversees government services for Disney World. For years, Disney controlled that district and elected its board members.
But earlier this year, the Legislature put DeSantis in charge of picking the board members. He then replaced the Disney-friendly board members with five of his Republican allies, vowing to end Disney’s special government arrangement in Florida.
But when the new DeSantis-appointed board took over, it discovered the previous Reedy Creek board had approved agreements preserving Disney’s control over growth and development
The new board declared the agreements limiting its authority void and asked the courts to uphold their decision.
In the court filing, the district’s lawyers say the previous Disney-friendly Reedy Creek board failed to follow the state’s public notice requirements for development agreements and made other procedural missteps. In particular, Reedy Creek did not mail notices to affected property owners, they wrote.
The filing also accuses Reedy Creek of unlawfully delegating its governmental powers to Disney.
Disney did not immediately respond to a request for comment."
DeSantis’ tourism district asks judge to declare it winner of Disney lawsuit
Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight district asked a state judge Tuesday to rule in its favor against Disney, a day after the governor said he has moved on from his feud with the entertainment gia…
www.orlandosentinel.com
pdude81
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Senator is a lifetime gig where you don't have nearly as much accountability as Governor. If he were smart he would have gone after Rick Scott's seat instead of trying to run for President.
What is the normal process to dissolve a special tax district?
Any district, not just RCID. But, if the people in one of the others decided that district no longer served it's purpose. What's the process they would need to do to dissolve the district?
(I don't think Disney would want to dissolve the district anyway. Just wondering what the process would be.)
JohnD
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An Act of the Legislature.
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
Followed by a vote of the residents/landowners. Normally it's not just an act of the legislature.
Has one ever been "completely" disolved be the state in the past? I suspect that nobody wants that to happen here.
Also...do the land owners have any say in it?...or does the state have full authority by themselves to create or dismantle these districts at will?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
These entire things are ambiguous…that’s part of the problem
Which is why believing in a “reset” in a different time and space is not realistic
Disneydad1012
Active Member
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
He axed the district's program but said some nice things about Disney's program? They aren't the same, so what's the issue?