News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

lazyboy97o

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Disney has filed to substitute Gilzean for Classe in their federal suit since he is now the district administrator.



In the state case, the parties are to submit their respective orders regarding proceeding, delaying or dismissing today. Hopefully we get an actual ruling on this soon. Since they were asked to submit orders, does anyone know if this would mean that Disney would have to chose between dismissal or delay?
 

DCBaker

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Here's the agenda for the next Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Board of Supervisors meeting on July 26.

The full BOS package can be found at this link.

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lazyboy97o

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Settlement negotiations? We’ll see if anything comes of it.
I was wondering if that was just boilerplate because a decent lawyer would discuss settlement options and there’s a certain fiscal responsibility to considering them.

I just can’t imagine what would be offered as a settlement. This isn’t about compensation. Working out new development agreements would make sense if the District had an alternative to the Comprehensive Plan.
 

Stripes

Premium Member
I was wondering if that was just boilerplate because a decent lawyer would discuss settlement options and there’s a certain fiscal responsibility to considering them.

I just can’t imagine what would be offered as a settlement. This isn’t about compensation. Working out new development agreements would make sense if the District had an alternative to the Comprehensive Plan.
Actually, I think they’re just trying to reach a settlement in regards to who is going to pay for the lawyers.

Disney should not move an inch.
 

MR.Dis

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I know I am in the minority here, but a settlement would seem the best for everyone. Maybe a change in the make up of the board where 2 are appointed by the Gov, 2 are basically appointed by Disney/Reedy Residents and maybe one is appointed by the county? The sticking point would be those development agreements, from DeSantis point they would have to go and from Disney's view they absolutely would need to stay. But that would mean their would need to be some adults in the room, so between DeSantis and Iger that is problematic.
 

LSLS

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I know I am in the minority here, but a settlement would seem the best for everyone. Maybe a change in the make up of the board where 2 are appointed by the Gov, 2 are basically appointed by Disney/Reedy Residents and maybe one is appointed by the county? The sticking point would be those development agreements, from DeSantis point they would have to go and from Disney's view they absolutely would need to stay. But that would mean their would need to be some adults in the room, so between DeSantis and Iger that is problematic.

I still see that as a risky business decision for Disney (not because of the board makeup, but because of what could be done to them in the future). BUT, even if I could see Disney doing it, I've seen NOTHING from Desantis that indicates he has even the slightest desire for that. For reasons I don't think I get, this is beyond personal for him.
 

Touchdown

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I still see that as a risky business decision for Disney (not because of the board makeup, but because of what could be done to them in the future). BUT, even if I could see Disney doing it, I've seen NOTHING from Desantis that indicates he has even the slightest desire for that. For reasons I don't think I get, this is beyond personal for him.
I believe it’s been pointed out numerous times as a personality flaw. He never wants to be told he is wrong (“thigh” food). Not only that politically compromising with “woke” companies would be political suicide at this point.
 

MR.Dis

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I still see that as a risky business decision for Disney (not because of the board makeup, but because of what could be done to them in the future). BUT, even if I could see Disney doing it, I've seen NOTHING from Desantis that indicates he has even the slightest desire for that. For reasons I don't think I get, this is beyond personal for him.
yes, I see this. Maybe after is Presidential ambitions crash and burn....however I will not hold my breath.
 

lazyboy97o

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I know I am in the minority here, but a settlement would seem the best for everyone. Maybe a change in the make up of the board where 2 are appointed by the Gov, 2 are basically appointed by Disney/Reedy Residents and maybe one is appointed by the county? The sticking point would be those development agreements, from DeSantis point they would have to go and from Disney's view they absolutely would need to stay. But that would mean their would need to be some adults in the room, so between DeSantis and Iger that is problematic.
Settlements are agreements between the disputing parties. The District cannot change how members are selected. Nor can the courts just modify how the Board is selected.

Development agreements have to be based on land development regulations which are created by the local government, not the state. That’s not something DeSantis gets to control and there are no alternative land development regulations or comprehensive plan.

Nothings says compromise and adulting like ignoring the law.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I know I am in the minority here, but a settlement would seem the best for everyone. Maybe a change in the make up of the board where 2 are appointed by the Gov, 2 are basically appointed by Disney/Reedy Residents and maybe one is appointed by the county? The sticking point would be those development agreements, from DeSantis point they would have to go and from Disney's view they absolutely would need to stay. But that would mean their would need to be some adults in the room, so between DeSantis and Iger that is problematic.
There really is no avenue for a settlement. I get that there is some wishful thinking that this could just “go away” but that isn’t possible at this point. There was certainly a time where that may have been possible, but not now. This just has to play out in the courts. I fail to see how Iger is not being an “adult in the room”, but you do you. Calling the other guy a child is an insult to children too.
 

RamblinWreck

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I know I am in the minority here, but a settlement would seem the best for everyone. Maybe a change in the make up of the board where 2 are appointed by the Gov, 2 are basically appointed by Disney/Reedy Residents and maybe one is appointed by the county? The sticking point would be those development agreements, from DeSantis point they would have to go and from Disney's view they absolutely would need to stay. But that would mean their would need to be some adults in the room, so between DeSantis and Iger that is problematic.
I don’t see a settlement like that ever making sense for Disney.

There’s no reason for them to agree to a district where they pay all these extra taxes and the majority control is by people not affected by them at all.

A realistic settlement would have to be pretty complex and also would have to be something that the governor would never even consider accepting, as he desperately needs to maintain the image he’s been trying to cultivate. And also because he just isn’t a reasonable person.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I could be wrong on this, but wouldn’t any type of settlement that specifies changes to the make up and selection of the board require an act of the legislature?

That’s how both boards were originally created.
Yes, a change back to a board elected by the taxpayers in the district would require an act of the legislature. However, in theory if Disney made a back door deal with DeSantis he could in theory temporarily replace the existing board with people “suggested” by Disney until the legislature gets back in session to pass a permanent change. All of that is a pipe dream and will never actually happen now, but if hell freezes over that is a path to doing it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Can’t get into details but new desantis board causing some havoc in regards to “fire codes”. Going to cost Disney lots of money to make lots of changes, With lots affecting how cast work backstage, and the cast are all very aware and angry about the reason why.
That was one of the things discussed here that people feared could happen. Fire codes exist for public safety not to attempt to punish a business who doesn’t support your political agenda.

It’s not surprising to see that Disney has no new projects going in FL. Sad, but not surprising. Hopefully this case isn’t dragged out too long and Disney can get back to real business. There will be a bump in 2025 from Epic Universe opening but outside of that it could be some lean years for Central FL tourism if Disney continues to sit it out.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I could be wrong on this, but wouldn’t any type of settlement that specifies changes to the make up and selection of the board require an act of the legislature?

That’s how both boards were originally created.
Yes. The legislature can act and moot the issues in court but the parties themselves can’t agree to changes. It’s not really a settlement and the District would really have no say in the matter.
 

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